Top Ten Inventions and Innovations

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Re: Top Ten Inventions and Innovations

Post by Marshall Dixon » Wed May 31, 2017 1:19 pm

I'VE GOT IT!

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Re: Top Ten Inventions and Innovations

Post by gitgeezer » Wed May 31, 2017 1:52 pm

No and no. Here's yet another hint. It's thought that some of the great masters of the renaissance used an early version of this device as an artistic aid.

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Re: Top Ten Inventions and Innovations

Post by Martin » Wed May 31, 2017 1:59 pm

gitgeezer wrote:
Wed May 31, 2017 1:52 pm
No and no. Here's yet another hint. It's thought that some of the great masters of the renaissance used an early version of this device as an artistic aid.
The camera?

Or Optics generally, telescopes, microscopes etc.
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Re: Top Ten Inventions and Innovations

Post by gitgeezer » Wed May 31, 2017 2:28 pm

Thank you. Yes, the camera. Here's the full list:

1. printing press
2. light bulb
3. airplane
4. personal computer
5. vaccines
6. automobile
7. clock
8. telephone
9. refrigeration
10. camera

The list appears in the June 2017 issue of the National Geographic magazine. The magazine had asked Carla Hayden, the U.S. Librarian of Congress, to develop the list.

The article was written by Daniel Stone. Stone wrote that "ranking innovations is more art than science. Can you really compare a camera to an airplane? But while progress is incremental, it's also exponential; it builds on itself. The printing press allowed literacy to spread and thinkers to share ideas and, thus, invent more things."

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Re: Top Ten Inventions and Innovations

Post by SteveL123 » Wed May 31, 2017 2:52 pm

camera

I used a search engine to find the answer so I'd replace "camera' with "search engine" if I were the librarian of congress. lol

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Re: Top Ten Inventions and Innovations

Post by Kent » Wed May 31, 2017 3:21 pm

Thank you. Yes, the camera. Here's the full list:

1. printing press
2. light bulb
3. airplane
4. personal computer
5. vaccines
6. automobile
7. clock
8. telephone
9. refrigeration
10. camera

In the next 100 years, probably 5 on the list will be replaced with "yet to be" innovations and inventions.
Any predictions?

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Re: Top Ten Inventions and Innovations

Post by Marshall Dixon » Wed May 31, 2017 4:13 pm

gitgeezer wrote:
Tue May 30, 2017 7:45 pm
The inventions and innovations on the list are all patentable things that we can see or experience directly, so electricity is out. The radio would be a good one, but didn't make the list. Perhaps it would have been 11th or 12th in a list of a dozen. Sorry, you members on the driverless car thread, driverless cars didn't make the list.
Patentable things?

The clock? The escapement goes back to the 13th century.

The camera? The camera obscura? The lens?

She missed the biggest one of all. Gunpowder.

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Re: Top Ten Inventions and Innovations

Post by astro64 » Wed May 31, 2017 4:37 pm

computers, aha too late, I see, I only had read page 1 at this point ;)
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Re: Top Ten Inventions and Innovations

Post by Andrew Fryer » Wed May 31, 2017 4:58 pm

It has already been joked about on Red Dwarf that matter transporters will mainly be used for delivering take-away curries.
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Re: Top Ten Inventions and Innovations

Post by gitgeezer » Wed May 31, 2017 5:21 pm

Marshall Dixon wrote:
Wed May 31, 2017 4:13 pm
gitgeezer wrote:
Tue May 30, 2017 7:45 pm
The inventions and innovations on the list are all patentable things that we can see or experience directly, so electricity is out. The radio would be a good one, but didn't make the list. Perhaps it would have been 11th or 12th in a list of a dozen. Sorry, you members on the driverless car thread, driverless cars didn't make the list.
Patentable things?

The clock? The escapement goes back to the 13th century.

The camera? The camera obscura? The lens?

She missed the biggest one of all. Gunpowder.
Yes, I did say patentable, but In my opening post I asked for inventions and innovations in which "it's possible to point to specific individuals who made it possible in a modern sense."

There are 33 patents on the clock registered with the U.S. Patent Office. There are also many patents on the camera, the most important being the one issued to George Eastman in 1888.

I also asked for those that are "most meaningful to human life today." I meant that in a positive way of course, so gunpowder is out. If I failed to stress that enough, then that's my mistake. Carla Hayden certainly understood that she was being asked to name positive things so it wasn't her miss at any rate.

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Re: Top Ten Inventions and Innovations

Post by gitgeezer » Wed May 31, 2017 5:29 pm

If you think there's something else that belongs in the top ten, then go ahead and suggest it. But in doing so you have to say which item should ne removed to make way for it, so that the total remains at ten. Also say which number, 1-10, you would claim for your item.

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Re: Top Ten Inventions and Innovations

Post by Jeffrey Armbruster » Wed May 31, 2017 5:38 pm

Andrew Fryer wrote:
Wed May 31, 2017 4:58 pm
It has already been joked about on Red Dwarf that matter transporters will mainly be used for delivering take-away curries.
And they could microwave them en route.
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Re: Top Ten Inventions and Innovations

Post by ddray » Wed May 31, 2017 6:10 pm

gitgeezer wrote:
Wed May 31, 2017 5:29 pm
If you think there's something else that belongs in the top ten, then go ahead and suggest it. But in doing so you have to say which item should ne removed to make way for it, so that the total remains at ten. Also say which number, 1-10, you would claim for your item.

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Somewhere radio belongs on the list. That was ginormous.

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Re: Top Ten Inventions and Innovations

Post by gitgeezer » Wed May 31, 2017 6:29 pm

ddray wrote:
Wed May 31, 2017 6:10 pm
gitgeezer wrote:
Wed May 31, 2017 5:29 pm
If you think there's something else that belongs in the top ten, then go ahead and suggest it. But in doing so you have to say which item should ne removed to make way for it, so that the total remains at ten. Also say which number, 1-10, you would claim for your item.

remove: ________________

add:____________________

Number:________________
Somewhere radio belongs on the list. That was ginormous.
So what would you remove from the list to make way for the radio? Well, that's the hard part isn't it.

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Re: Top Ten Inventions and Innovations

Post by ddray » Wed May 31, 2017 7:30 pm

gitgeezer wrote:
Wed May 31, 2017 6:29 pm
ddray wrote:
Wed May 31, 2017 6:10 pm
gitgeezer wrote:
Wed May 31, 2017 5:29 pm
If you think there's something else that belongs in the top ten, then go ahead and suggest it. But in doing so you have to say which item should ne removed to make way for it, so that the total remains at ten. Also say which number, 1-10, you would claim for your item.

remove: ________________

add:____________________

Number:________________
Somewhere radio belongs on the list. That was ginormous.
So what would you remove from the list to make way for the radio? Well, that's the hard part isn't it.
Well that's the problem with having a list of only 10 inventions. Some of those that "made it" might not have had the impact they did without some of those that didn't. Would there have been a personal computer (or cell phones or television or satellites) without radio coming along first? I don't think so. Lists like this don't take contingency into account. It's as if the PC popped out of someone's forehead fully grown.
I wouldn't so much take anything away; I'd subsume telegraph, radio, tv, telephone and the PC under "communications explosion, 1800-2017".

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