Um....actually I would give both a miss if its accuracy your after.
I recommend them as art, but I think the most important message to take from Herzog is about cross-cultural misunderstandings (although he is possibly doing little more than putting Barthes on screen - I haven't read Barthes for 40 years, so I can't remember). So the accuracy you mention, is that accuracy on our terms or have we some modern aboriginal benchmark for our interpretations? And these aborigines, how are we to interpret what they say before we can use it as a benchmark, or if they say it more directly, have they been educated as historians by us Westerners?
Read that too, but years ago. I'll was thinking of digging that out too but I may have given it away recently. Thanks for reminding me of it.
I live in Germany but am not German.
This sounds very promising and is the kind of direction I was hoping to hear about. What we are missing in some ways is an Aboriginal "translation" of their oral tradition, dance and painting in to Western "scientific" "language". The inverted commas because the words don't accurately the express the kind of cultural translation that is needed when there is such a gap in the concepts.Peter Lovett wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2017 11:04 am
... the earliest dating of artefacts has pushed their time on the continent back another 15,000 years which is causing some rethinking of the source of human kind on earth.
One of the problems with Aboriginal history is that they did not have a written record but passed it down orally, painting and in dance form and interest in that has only recently been taken up.
Its not Aboriginal history per se but gives a very interesting insight into Aboriginal life pre-European history is The Biggest Estate On Earth: How Aborigines Made Australia by Bill Gammage. Gammage is an historian who studied the early European travellers writings on what they observed and compares what they saw, and painted, with today and comes to a conclusion that Aboriginal practices were designed to create an estate and not, as previously supposed, living in a state of nature.
It does, however, shed an enormous amount of light on Aboriginal practices and gives an extremely coherent account of Aboriginal songlines.
There are suggestions that not all Aboriginal people were removed from the test area before the blast. The area, Maralinga, is subject to a land rights claim but there are areas where you still cannot remain for any length of time due to radiation.Andrew Fryer wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2017 1:13 pmI think Chatwin is over-rated, which is why I say the Songlines is the only book of his I liked.
The history of British nuclear testing in Australia is worth examining - I heard that the areas where it was done were not fenced off, there were just notices every mile or so saying KEEP OUT.
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