they shouldn'tna called it Irma

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Re: they shouldn'tna called it Irma

Post by bear » Sun Sep 10, 2017 11:08 am

montana wrote:
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Everyone has a good point. I believe it's a stalemate. Only thing left to do is donate to the relief fund.
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Re: they shouldn'tna called it Irma

Post by lagartija » Sun Sep 10, 2017 12:21 pm

montana wrote:
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Everyone has a good point. I believe it's a stalemate. Only thing left to do is donate to the relief fund.
Indeed!
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Re: they shouldn'tna called it Irma

Post by Andrew Fryer » Sun Sep 10, 2017 4:18 pm

Because Texas needs the money more than Bangladesh and Nepal do.

And that's the end of that thread!
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Re: they shouldn'tna called it Irma

Post by Pat Dodson » Sun Sep 10, 2017 5:15 pm

Oh dear! Can we not agree that there are some awful natural and man-made disasters all around the world. The coverage, concern and relief efforts may well be influenced by the geography, populations, technical resources and "political clout" of each. And our sympathy and response may be affected not only by all these and by our knowledge of people, including loved ones and friends, and of places, but also by our individual ethics and politics.

However for those innocent folk caught up right now in these tragedies, scales of measurement and comparison, especially from those at a distance, might seem rather callous and upsetting. By all means let's individually choose which disaster relief agency we wish to support but let's put argument aside for another time and do now whatever we individually can.

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Re: they shouldn'tna called it Irma

Post by robin loops » Sun Sep 10, 2017 5:30 pm

David_Norton wrote:
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EDIT: Comment withdrawn, as this thread is seen by others as a legitimate anxiety release method. Sincere apologies for my tactless comments which may have offended the OP.

(Original comment may be seen in later quotes.)
I had the same sentiment. I personally would not have deleted it. Pointing out the insensitivity of something is not in itself being insensitive. In fact, if anything, not pointing it out, could be considered a form of complacent insensitivity.
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Re: they shouldn'tna called it Irma

Post by robin loops » Sun Sep 10, 2017 5:36 pm

Considering some of the topics here that have been deleted, often to protect the feelings of sensitive brats that get into a tiff because someone does not completely agree with them, the fact that this one has been allowed seems a little messed up. But whatever, I guess 'TAB vs. Notation' is much more contentious than making fun of human suffering.
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Re: they shouldn'tna called it Irma

Post by Jeffrey Armbruster » Sun Sep 10, 2017 7:43 pm

I don't see anything on this thread that constitutes making fun of human suffering.
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Re: they shouldn'tna called it Irma

Post by montana » Mon Sep 11, 2017 5:37 am

Andrew Fryer wrote:
Sun Sep 10, 2017 4:18 pm
Because Texas needs the money more than Bangladesh and Nepal do.

And that's the end of that thread!
So true Andrew. It's time to think globally. And we ...on the most part,don't. How do we take care of each individual disaster?

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Re: they shouldn'tna called it Irma

Post by Andrew Fryer » Mon Sep 11, 2017 10:08 am

montana wrote:
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How do we take care of each individual disaster?
The answer is an anagram of Texas.
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Re: they shouldn'tna called it Irma

Post by Pat Dodson » Mon Sep 11, 2017 10:48 am

Andrew Fryer wrote:
Mon Sep 11, 2017 10:08 am
montana wrote:
Mon Sep 11, 2017 5:37 am
How do we take care of each individual disaster?
The answer is an anagram of Texas.
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Re: they shouldn'tna called it Irma

Post by bear » Mon Sep 11, 2017 1:14 pm

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Re: they shouldn'tna called it Irma

Post by Sandaun » Tue Sep 19, 2017 10:36 am

Jeffrey Armbruster wrote:
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David, are you really wishing for Berkeley to be leveled because I made a joke? Which is fine, for me, because luckily your wishes won't have any effect whatsoever on earthquake activity. Just as my words won't influence what happens in Florida and elsewhere one iota. That's why people do indeed use humor to help manage overwhelming situations. It can lessen the anxiety and terror, bring it down to size. In any case, I did live through a big one and many others (you mean that you've forgotten Loma Prieta in 1989?). People joke about earthquakes here all the time--what are you going to to? Tragedies happen and one human response is humor--for example, my brother made jokes as he was dying in hospital. ER doctors are famous for their humor. And so on.

I wasn't praying for a hurricane to hit Cuba and Florida and the other islands. The hurricane exists; I had nothing to do with it. My thoughts and prayers are with all of the people effected.
I knew I had seen it somewhere, the one joke about earthquakes I don't know if Californians make
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Re: they shouldn'tna called it Irma

Post by Andrew Fryer » Tue Sep 19, 2017 11:17 am

The San Andreas fault is responsible for oil (700,000 barrels per day), metals, minerals, Silicon Valley, viticulture (the required micro-climate is created by the fault), tourism and Hollywood.
They have calculated the annual income the fault generates (100 billion dollars).
They have calculated the annual damage earthquakes cause (1.5 to 2.5 billion dollars - 250 billion dollars per earthquake at 100-150-year intervals). That figure seems ambiguous to me - it may only be for LA. Perhaps it needs to be doubled to include SF etc? Taxes, insurance, social insurance. They are so affordable.
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Re: they shouldn'tna called it Irma

Post by Andrew Pohlman » Tue Sep 19, 2017 3:47 pm

Andrew Fryer wrote:
Tue Sep 19, 2017 11:17 am
The San Andreas fault is responsible for ...
You didn't mention that almost all schools, colleges and universities here are built on extensions of the San Andreas fault line due to the land being dirt cheap. The two colleges I attended in the SF Bay Area are both built directly on top of the Hayward fault. The cost benefit of this is difficult to calculate as it is rather intangible. But in my opinion, this kind of thing is a great argument for online universities. :D

More seriously, in the aftermath of the Loma Prieta quake, the whole damn neighborhood showed up at my house. My wife and I did what we could to help them. Right now, I have former colleagues in Texas in need of help. Offering help is something I can do for victims whose names I know.

And now Maria is wreaking havoc... This is not pretty.
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