pizza is just over-priced cheese on toast

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pizza is just over-priced cheese on toast

Post by Andrew Fryer » Thu Sep 21, 2017 12:42 pm

I have a friend who is vehement in his hatred of pizza.
For him it is just over-priced cheese on toast.
Do you agree with him?
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Re: pizza is just over-priced cheese on toast

Post by bear » Thu Sep 21, 2017 12:57 pm

Andrew Fryer wrote:
Thu Sep 21, 2017 12:42 pm
I have a friend who is vehement in his hatred of pizza.
For him it is just over-priced cheese on toast.
Do you agree with him?
I've had the great fortune to marry an Italian woman, she makes her own. It's as good or better than I've had in Italy. The pizza you get in restaurants is a misnomer.
So, I'd agree that people pay too much for faux pizza.
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Re: pizza is just over-priced cheese on toast

Post by doug » Thu Sep 21, 2017 1:00 pm

No, I don't. It's one of my favorite foods. I do enjoy a good pizza ....my favorite is a thin & crispy crust, loaded with everything......and an ice cold beer.
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Re: pizza is just over-priced cheese on toast

Post by Andrew Fryer » Thu Sep 21, 2017 1:04 pm

The thinner, the better, no deep pan, no stuffed crust. And give me just anchovies and black olives and a few other things, and red wine.
Pizza Express's pizza nicoise used to be nice. And I like the one with egg and spinach on it.
I've never had beef or chicken on a pizza in my life and hope I never do.
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Re: pizza is just over-priced cheese on toast

Post by Mickmac » Thu Sep 21, 2017 2:37 pm

Andrew Fryer wrote:
Thu Sep 21, 2017 12:42 pm
I have a friend who is vehement in his hatred of pizza.
For him it is just over-priced cheese on toast.
Do you agree with him?
Gah!! Shun this friend immediately! Clearly a person of no taste and even less moral fiber. They will probably murder you in your bed if you are not careful.

The existence of pizza is one of the proofs that there is a G-d.

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Re: pizza is just over-priced cheese on toast

Post by Andrew Pohlman » Thu Sep 21, 2017 3:02 pm

Andrew Fryer wrote:
Thu Sep 21, 2017 12:42 pm
I have a friend who is vehement in his hatred of pizza.
For him it is just over-priced cheese on toast.
Do you agree with him?
I worked in a pizza parlor when I was "starving student" long ago. For 3 years after, I hated pizza.

Now, I love the stuff. Jalapeno, olives and red onion, or pepperoni, olive and jalapeno. Normal crust, and red sauce. Heaven.
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Re: pizza is just over-priced cheese on toast

Post by JohnW400 » Thu Sep 21, 2017 3:06 pm

Clearly this person has never had pizza from the NY-NJ area. ;)

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Re: pizza is just over-priced cheese on toast

Post by Dirck Nagy » Thu Sep 21, 2017 4:15 pm

bear wrote:
Thu Sep 21, 2017 12:57 pm
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It's as good or better than I've had in Italy.
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Hmm... my only experience with Italian pizza was awful...It seemed like random leftovers from the refrigerator... but I've never been farther south than Firenze.

I'm willing to admit that I may be missing something, so if anyone wants to bring me to Naples to prove me wrong, feel free!

American cuisine occasionally has happy accidents, and I believe that the Culture of Pizza is one of those things.

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Re: pizza is just over-priced cheese on toast

Post by David Norton » Thu Sep 21, 2017 4:17 pm

Andrew Fryer wrote:
Thu Sep 21, 2017 1:04 pm
And give me just anchovies and black olives and a few other things, and red wine.
Holy smokes!! I'm not a complete Lone Wolf in favouring anchovies and black olives on a pizza!!
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Re: pizza is just over-priced cheese on toast

Post by Dirck Nagy » Thu Sep 21, 2017 4:28 pm

Anchovies are a favorite of mine too
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Re: pizza is just over-priced cheese on toast

Post by guitarrista » Thu Sep 21, 2017 4:58 pm

David Norton wrote:
Thu Sep 21, 2017 4:17 pm
Andrew Fryer wrote:
Thu Sep 21, 2017 1:04 pm
And give me just anchovies and black olives and a few other things, and red wine.
Holy smokes!! I'm not a complete Lone Wolf in favouring anchovies and black olives on a pizza!!

I love pizza with anchovies too :D We are the chosen few :lol:
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Re: pizza is just over-priced cheese on toast

Post by gitgeezer » Thu Sep 21, 2017 5:52 pm

Andrew Fryer wrote:
Thu Sep 21, 2017 12:42 pm
I have a friend who is vehement in his hatred of pizza.
For him it is just over-priced cheese on toast.
Do you agree with him?
I happen to like cheese on toast, traditionally called "toasted cheese." And it's not overpriced if it's good cheese and good bread and no more expensive than pizza.

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Re: pizza is just over-priced cheese on toast

Post by Andrew Fryer » Thu Sep 21, 2017 5:58 pm

If you want to smell something very bad, grill some gruyere and burn it!

I once had an Argentinian girlfriend who grilled cheese and tomatoes on toast and called it pizza. It was cute.
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Re: pizza is just over-priced cheese on toast

Post by Stephen Kenyon » Thu Sep 21, 2017 6:20 pm

Mickmac wrote:
Thu Sep 21, 2017 2:37 pm
The existence of pizza is one of the proofs that there is a G-d.
Hm, G major to d minor - nicely Dorian :)

Its not really cheese on toast because pizza base isn't normal bread and its not toasted.

But as an observation its not far off in the sense that, as I understand it, in its origin it was a basic, cheap meal, like cheese (and tomato) on toast. Its complicated by the point that it seems that when taken to the US it became a massive complicated dish several inches thick and covered with all manner of things, at least, that was my experience of it in Chicago 20 years ago; just what I needed in the heat of late June :chaud: .
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Re: pizza is just over-priced cheese on toast

Post by Jeffrey Armbruster » Fri Sep 22, 2017 12:37 am

My landlord of proud Italian descent insists that Pizza is NOT proper Italian food.

That said, Cheeseboard (across the street from Chez Panisse) makes the best pizza ever. Thin crust, seasonal toppings. Which requires imagination.

I always like the idea of anchovies more than anchovies themselves. Like pickles on a sandwich, too overpowering.
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