$10,000 for a car with over 100k miles?

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$10,000 for a car with over 100k miles?

Post by glassynails » Sat Oct 28, 2017 7:39 am

I've owned nothing but Subarus for the last 15 years I'd say. I'm now "into" the Foresters exclusively. Well, my 2003 with 187k is getting old and I was told sadly is "no longer worth keeping and putting money into" (rust mostly). I paid $8500 6 years ago for it and put on over 100k miles in that time dumping an additional over $7000 into it through the years.

Well I like Subarus, but I think they are expensive maintaining. One reason I like my Forester is that it's AWD and we get a lot of snow up here in Maine. The one thing that urks me is people seem to think they're so great, but you end up dumping a lot of money into them all the time to keep them so "reliable" as they're often touted.

Well I was looking now at a 2010 with over 100k miles on it and it's selling for over $10k. Would you pay that much for a car with that many miles on it? Another Subaru thing is that they have a dreaded HEAD GASKET issue that at about or over 100k miles needs to be addressed and usually ends up costing an additional $2000 to fix. I did it recently on my 03 Forester and of course now I'm told by my mech. it's no longer worth keeping.

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Re: $10,000 for a car with over 100k miles?

Post by David Norton » Sat Oct 28, 2017 12:35 pm

Short answer: no way would I pay $10K for 100K+ in mileage.
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Re: $10,000 for a car with over 100k miles?

Post by Jack Douglas » Sat Oct 28, 2017 1:01 pm

Hi Glassynails,

A friend of mine did some research on what AWD was the best in terms of safety, reliability, maintenance, comfort, etc. when he came up with the results he said he was completely surprised. You’ll see why!
Before I tell you which vehicle, I will tell you that I’m now on my 4th one and my wife is on number 2.
My first One I drove 240,000 miles and sold it within pennies of what I paid for it. I sold/traded The next 2 at 140,000 and 108,000 Miles. None of these cars had anything other than tires, brakes, and routine maintenance. Oh, and I’ve driven diesels and my wife opted for gasoline models.
I just traded my 2011 for a 2015 yesterday. My new model is touted to get almost 50 Miles per gallon on a multi-hour highway cruise. It’s loaded with all sorts of safety features. It’s 4 cylinder engine is a bit slower from a start, but shows it’s stuff on the highway!
So, here’s the 🚗!!
Mercedes!
Don’t be afraid of Miles over 100k. The first one I bought had 104k on it when I bought it and that one I drove 240k.
Get out of those Subarus and get in a safer and more dependable Mercedes!!
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Re: $10,000 for a car with over 100k miles?

Post by gitgeezer » Sat Oct 28, 2017 1:54 pm

There are plenty of American-branded AWDs, and although they rank lower on average than some non-American brands they are cheaper to maintain. I don't think you would have dumped $7000 into maintenance if it had been an American AWD. Mine is a GMC.

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Re: $10,000 for a car with over 100k miles?

Post by simonm » Sat Oct 28, 2017 4:56 pm

Jack Douglas wrote:
Sat Oct 28, 2017 1:01 pm
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Mercedes!
...
What model are you referring to?

In Europe 4 wheel drive Mercs are very expensive. I believe some of the "cheaper" 4-wheel drive mercs in Europe are actually produced in the US and imported here. I am not sure.

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Re: $10,000 for a car with over 100k miles?

Post by SteveL123 » Sat Oct 28, 2017 5:10 pm

Jack Douglas wrote:
Sat Oct 28, 2017 1:01 pm
.................
I just traded my 2011 for a 2015 yesterday. My new model is touted to get almost 50 Miles per gallon on a multi-hour highway cruise. It’s loaded with all sorts of safety features. It’s 4 cylinder engine is a bit slower from a start, but shows it’s stuff on the highway!
So, here’s the 🚗!!
Mercedes!
.......
A 4 wheel drive getting almost 50 mpg? What model Mercedes? Must be a diesel but 50 mpg?

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Re: $10,000 for a car with over 100k miles?

Post by Jack Douglas » Sat Oct 28, 2017 8:55 pm

SteveL123 wrote:
Sat Oct 28, 2017 5:10 pm
Jack Douglas wrote:
Sat Oct 28, 2017 1:01 pm
.................
I just traded my 2011 for a 2015 yesterday. My new model is touted to get almost 50 Miles per gallon on a multi-hour highway cruise. It’s loaded with all sorts of safety features. It’s 4 cylinder engine is a bit slower from a start, but shows it’s stuff on the highway!
So, here’s the 🚗!!
Mercedes!
.......
A 4 wheel drive getting almost 50 mpg? What model Mercedes? Must be a diesel but 50 mpg?
It’s an E-250 Bluetech. That mileage is only when on the Interstate with cruise control set at about 72.
My previous E350, a 6 cylinder got about 44 MPG on such trips. Of course around town the MPG is more like 31-32.
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Re: $10,000 for a car with over 100k miles?

Post by Jack Douglas » Sat Oct 28, 2017 9:00 pm

simonm wrote:
Sat Oct 28, 2017 4:56 pm
Jack Douglas wrote:
Sat Oct 28, 2017 1:01 pm
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Mercedes!
...
What model are you referring to?

In Europe 4 wheel drive Mercs are very expensive. I believe some of the "cheaper" 4-wheel drive mercs in Europe are actually produced in the US and imported here. I am not sure.
E 250 Bluetech. And mine is not 4 wheel drive. The 4 wheel drive would not get 50 MPG, however, on interstate drives of 3-5 hours using cruise control the 4 wheel ought to get mid 40’s per gallon. I’m in a climate where 4 wheel drive is nice, but not necessary. I prefer the 2 wheel version that gets the most MPG.
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Re: $10,000 for a car with over 100k miles?

Post by simonm » Sat Oct 28, 2017 10:19 pm

Thanks Jack.

In Europe as far as I know the E series is not equipped with 4 wheel drive in any model. I had a quick check for used E250 Bluetecs in Germany. The main car portal I use showed 22 for sale used with 50-80k miles and the cheapest came in a few bucks shy of US$20k.

In Europe a Dacia Duster 4x4 would easily fall into the Budget Glassy mentioned, some with as few as 20k-30k miles. With more miles they could be quite a bit a lower. However the maintenance in the US would be expensive as they are (I guess) unknown there.

I have gotten close to manufacturers (renault, ford, citroen diesels) numbers with very careful driving involving using at least 800km worth of French motorway. The french motorways are relatively uncrowded (toll roads) and the french drivers are very well mannered making it easy to keep steady moderate speeds.

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Re: $10,000 for a car with over 100k miles?

Post by Alan Green » Sun Oct 29, 2017 12:26 pm

We have a lot of Rolls Royce and Bentleys round here. They only ever go up in value; especially the vintage models

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Re: $10,000 for a car with over 100k miles?

Post by Gorn » Sun Oct 29, 2017 1:17 pm

The ultimate car on the Azores is the Toyota Hilux Pickup. Most farmers got one (instead of a tractor). It can easily be licenced to be a truck, so you do not pay relevant taxes and they're sold used for over 10.000 EUR even if the mileage is 200.000 km (125k miles). New price is <30.000 EUR.
Don't know if their Hilux-myth is right, but you see lots of vehicles on the streets which are older than 20 years. Of course, there's no snow, but salty air.
I would never pay $ 10.000 for a used car of that mileage, because repairs will eat you up (clutch, dampers, exhaust...) as long as they're not already changed. No Mercedes, BMW or whatever is built for >100.000 miles without repairs. That's called planned obsolescence. Maybe some guys were lucky, but you don't hear from the 99% that weren't. I cannot imagine that Subaru will do anything better. Nevertheless, my next car will be Japanese, again.
BTW: Audi, BMW and Mercedes have their own breakdown service companies in Germany, so their nuts are not captured by the German Automobile Club (ADAC).
N.B: Ooops, I forgot, there's a relevant difference between Germany and rest of the world: If you're used travel with 130 mph on the German Autobahn, cars do not last very long. Maybe it's different in more civilized countries.

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Re: $10,000 for a car with over 100k miles?

Post by dng » Sun Oct 29, 2017 4:02 pm

$10,000 for a car with over 100k miles?
why not? just look at the VW Vanagon and specially the Vanagon Syncro (4WD) and better yet some owners put Subaru engine in it and the price is even higher... :D

and Jack, I agree with you about the MB... I have a ML430 and it's very nice and fun to drive...
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Re: $10,000 for a car with over 100k miles?

Post by doug » Sun Oct 29, 2017 5:49 pm

Just out of curiosity, I plugged 2010 Suburu Forester with 100000 mi, in good condition, into Kelly Blue Book, and the average prices were much less than $10K. I would have to know the history of the vehicle, before I spent that much. What type of person owned it? What kind of conditions was it driven in? Was regular maintenance performed on it, and by whom?
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Re: $10,000 for a car with over 100k miles?

Post by Tubbers » Sun Oct 29, 2017 8:01 pm

Mercedes!

I have a '67 D-200 4 cylinder diesel that I've been trying to get roadworthy for a couple years. It needs a brake booster and lots of electrical, but runs great.
Help!

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Re: $10,000 for a car with over 100k miles?

Post by Keith » Sun Oct 29, 2017 8:51 pm

glassynails,that is a lot of money for a car with so many miles BUT those miles could be mainly highway--especially if it hales from Burlington VT or Amherst MA or Portland ME. I would think twice if it hales from Boston--lots of stop and go and crappy roads. What does the CarFax report say? I think quality of miles (i.e., minimal stop and go) is what counts. That said, the big question is the dreaded head gasket problem. Is this typical of Suburu in general--that is, most need this operation? If so then I would avoid it as now you are looking at a $12K automobile.
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