Pepe Romero Strings

Choice of classical guitar strings and technical issues connected with their use.
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Re: Pepe Romero Strings

Postby harryf » Sat Mar 11, 2017 1:02 am

Just received my set of PEPSR strings. They are supposed to be Hard Tension, but the string diameters are about the same as many low or normal tension sets. I measured (1st-6th): .028, .032, .040, .029, .035, .045. This is pretty close to the same as the D'Addario EJ45 set except for the 6th string which is .043 in the EJ45 set. This may explain why many people report that they do not feel like a high tension set. I look forward to actually trying them.
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Re: Pepe Romero Strings

Postby gabasa » Sat Mar 11, 2017 2:01 am

Wow, very interesting.

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Re: Pepe Romero Strings

Postby es335 » Sat Mar 11, 2017 8:49 am

Interesting and somehow strange indeed!

This is except for E6 thinner than the light tension GLOW set!? :shock:

The measures are (e1-E6) 0.029/0.033/0.041/0.029/0.035/0.042 which was re-confirmed at one spare set!
BTW the string gauges proved to be quite consistant, which is not as natural as this might appear at first sight!

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Re: Pepe Romero Strings

Postby souldier » Tue Mar 14, 2017 9:53 pm

I think it is important to remember there is more to string tension than diameter. Not all nylon strings are made equal, and often strings can achieve greater tension without increasing diameter. It is also possible for a string to feel pliable like a normal tension string, while still being higher tension such as Savarez Corum basses.

In the case of PR strings, we won't really know until someone produces some actual figures.
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Re: Pepe Romero Strings

Postby es335 » Wed Mar 15, 2017 5:51 pm

Sorry to object but the string diameter proved to be the most reliable parameter in my experience at least!

The diameter measurement is standardized why the figures of all string brands are comparable which is definitely not the case for published tensions.

So whenever a discrepancy occured between diameters and tensions, I found myself always right to follow the diameters, provided the published figures were correct and the strings were correctly packed as labeled, which is not so self-evident as one might believe! :wink:

BTW just switched back to the relatively tight PR GLOW strings ... that's it, really! Their homogeneity is unparalleled. Forget about any consideration where to fret a note on which string to obtain a coherent sound! :D

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Re: Pepe Romero Strings

Postby souldier » Wed Mar 15, 2017 6:02 pm

es335 wrote:Sorry to object but the string diameter proved to be the most reliable parameter in my experience at least!

The diameter measurement is standardized why the figures of all string brands are comparable which is definitely not the case for published tensions.

So whenever a discrepancy occured between diameters and tensions, I found myself always right to follow the diameters, provided the published figures were correct and the strings were correctly packed as labeled, which is not so self-evident as one might believe! :wink:

BTW just switched back to the relatively tight PR GLOW strings ... that's it, really! Their homogeneity is unparalleled. Forget about any consideration where to fret a note on which string to obtain a coherent sound! :D


Other than measuring the diameter, do you have any means of measuring the actual tension value of the string?
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Re: Pepe Romero Strings

Postby es335 » Wed Mar 15, 2017 6:30 pm

That's a good question! Tension measurement on its own is reliable, of course but without a standardized test setup and test conditions for string tension, which are accepted and applied by all manufacturers, these figures are only directly comparable within the same brand. I do remember that Robert (rojarosguitar) had started a thread about a test bench for string tension measurement but can't remember how it ended up?

Finally it's my personal experience that diameters had always been less misleading than tension figures. :wink:

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Re: Pepe Romero Strings

Postby SteveL123 » Wed Mar 15, 2017 7:01 pm

I just looked at https://www.stringsbymail.com/search/re ... g&sortby=5 and it is bewildering the number of brands/ strings within a brand that is available. What is the classical string business like, as in who actually makes them in the US/ Europe /Asia? I can't imagine each brand has their own machines and make their own strings. The treble strings are mono-filament while the bass strings are wound, very different construction methods requiring totally different machines. Please enlighten me.

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Re: Pepe Romero Strings

Postby gabasa » Wed Mar 15, 2017 8:53 pm

I may be totally wrong, but here's my take on it.

I would imagine that all the larger string companies, such as D'Addario, La Bella, Hannabach or Pyramid have their own machinery. I think that even some of the smaller companies, like Knobloch, also have their own machinery.

There are cases however, in which production is outsourced. I'd love to know the real answer to this.


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