Change Nut, Change string spacing

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Re: Change Nut, Change string spacing

Post by nmshu1 » Sat Oct 29, 2016 8:33 am

Now I know the ivory nut is not available here......bone only here.
Otto Vowinkel Concert 650 Cedar/BRW
German V Rubio Concert 635 Spruce/Maple
Kenny Hill Performance 630 Spruce+Cedar/Maple
Juan Hernandez Torres 640 Spruce/IRW
Cordoba C9 650 Cedar/Mahogany
Sweet Tone 640 Spruce/RW

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Re: Change Nut, Change string spacing

Post by nmshu1 » Sun Oct 30, 2016 4:32 pm

James Lister wrote:No.
For your guitars, I think maybe you are right. However I found that the extremely responsive guitars were affected by different quality nuts....
Otto Vowinkel Concert 650 Cedar/BRW
German V Rubio Concert 635 Spruce/Maple
Kenny Hill Performance 630 Spruce+Cedar/Maple
Juan Hernandez Torres 640 Spruce/IRW
Cordoba C9 650 Cedar/Mahogany
Sweet Tone 640 Spruce/RW

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Re: Change Nut, Change string spacing

Post by James Lister » Sun Oct 30, 2016 7:21 pm

nmshu1 wrote:
James Lister wrote:No.
For your guitars, I think maybe you are right. However I found that the extremely responsive guitars were affected by different quality nuts....
Ah, that must be it. My guitars aren't responsive at all. :roll:

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Re: Change Nut, Change string spacing

Post by bacsidoan » Sun Oct 30, 2016 7:33 pm

James Lister wrote:
nmshu1 wrote:
James Lister wrote:No.
For your guitars, I think maybe you are right. However I found that the extremely responsive guitars were affected by different quality nuts....
Ah, that must be it. My guitars aren't responsive at all. :roll:

James
You'd better go back to the drawing board, James :wink:

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Re: Change Nut, Change string spacing

Post by nmshu1 » Sun Oct 30, 2016 10:12 pm

James Lister wrote:
nmshu1 wrote:
James Lister wrote:No.
For your guitars, I think maybe you are right. However I found that the extremely responsive guitars were affected by different quality nuts....
Ah, that must be it. My guitars aren't responsive at all. :roll:

James
The nut is ok, but the top has to be highly responsive....I prefer to highly responsive Sedar/spruce top guitar.....I feel easy to play for right hand, easy to play faster...
Otto Vowinkel Concert 650 Cedar/BRW
German V Rubio Concert 635 Spruce/Maple
Kenny Hill Performance 630 Spruce+Cedar/Maple
Juan Hernandez Torres 640 Spruce/IRW
Cordoba C9 650 Cedar/Mahogany
Sweet Tone 640 Spruce/RW

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Re: Change Nut, Change string spacing

Post by nmshu1 » Sun Oct 30, 2016 10:17 pm

bacsidoan wrote:
James Lister wrote:
nmshu1 wrote:
For your guitars, I think maybe you are right. However I found that the extremely responsive guitars were affected by different quality nuts....
Ah, that must be it. My guitars aren't responsive at all. :roll:

James
You'd better go back to the drawing board, James :wink:
I saw Marcin Dylla tried James' guitar... That means James' guitars are good...

Now I have no interest to try many guitars if they are not good enough......so many guitars worldwide...

I am lucky I am satisfied my current guitars.

Different nut material can completely change the sound....
Otto Vowinkel Concert 650 Cedar/BRW
German V Rubio Concert 635 Spruce/Maple
Kenny Hill Performance 630 Spruce+Cedar/Maple
Juan Hernandez Torres 640 Spruce/IRW
Cordoba C9 650 Cedar/Mahogany
Sweet Tone 640 Spruce/RW

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Re: Change Nut, Change string spacing

Post by nmshu1 » Sat Dec 03, 2016 7:28 am

Rick-in-Annapolis wrote:
James Lister wrote:No.
This seems like a simple answer to a potentially more complicated question. My understanding is that nut material can change the tone of the guitar.
You are right that nut material can change the tone of the guitar a lot!
Otto Vowinkel Concert 650 Cedar/BRW
German V Rubio Concert 635 Spruce/Maple
Kenny Hill Performance 630 Spruce+Cedar/Maple
Juan Hernandez Torres 640 Spruce/IRW
Cordoba C9 650 Cedar/Mahogany
Sweet Tone 640 Spruce/RW

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Re: Change Nut, Change string spacing

Post by Keith » Sat Dec 03, 2016 11:07 am

I would imagine the material of the nut on the sweet tone guitar has to be the material to use as the name of the guitar says it all. :wink:
be true to the one you love but have many flings with different guitars

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Re: Change Nut, Change string spacing

Post by nmshu1 » Mon Dec 05, 2016 12:43 am

Keith wrote:I would imagine the material of the nut on the sweet tone guitar has to be the material to use as the name of the guitar says it all. :wink:
Extremely responsive guitar will do. Not all guitars...
Otto Vowinkel Concert 650 Cedar/BRW
German V Rubio Concert 635 Spruce/Maple
Kenny Hill Performance 630 Spruce+Cedar/Maple
Juan Hernandez Torres 640 Spruce/IRW
Cordoba C9 650 Cedar/Mahogany
Sweet Tone 640 Spruce/RW

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Re: Change Nut, Change string spacing

Post by nmshu1 » Sun Jan 01, 2017 1:51 am

Today I changed the nut, the guitar's sound changed completely!
Otto Vowinkel Concert 650 Cedar/BRW
German V Rubio Concert 635 Spruce/Maple
Kenny Hill Performance 630 Spruce+Cedar/Maple
Juan Hernandez Torres 640 Spruce/IRW
Cordoba C9 650 Cedar/Mahogany
Sweet Tone 640 Spruce/RW

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Re: Change Nut, Change string spacing

Post by Rick-in-Annapolis » Tue Jan 03, 2017 12:15 pm

For better or worse?

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Re: Change Nut, Change string spacing

Post by Allister Slingenberg » Tue Jan 03, 2017 12:27 pm

it has been proven without a shadow of a doubt that changing the nut can impact on the survival rates of squirrels in spruce/cedar forests.

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Re: Change Nut, Change string spacing

Post by drmlyung » Wed Jan 04, 2017 5:19 am

emueller wrote: ......
Anyone tried a solid gold nut? That would change the value of the guitar and put it in a more expensive league of renowned instruments. And the tone would be so much better! My point, experimenter's bias is a wonderful thing and it's elimination is a painful process! :)
I did, on my Chinese made Aiersi. That made it sound very expensive, more more so then my Spanish made J.R. 1a. 8)

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Re: Change Nut, Change string spacing

Post by nmshu1 » Thu Jan 05, 2017 7:41 am

Rick-in-Annapolis wrote:For better or worse?
It's sound becomes much softer, better balanced, much responsive...it is different. I can not say better or worse...when the strings got older, it's sound got bad quickly. It seems the strings life was shorter...
Otto Vowinkel Concert 650 Cedar/BRW
German V Rubio Concert 635 Spruce/Maple
Kenny Hill Performance 630 Spruce+Cedar/Maple
Juan Hernandez Torres 640 Spruce/IRW
Cordoba C9 650 Cedar/Mahogany
Sweet Tone 640 Spruce/RW

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Re: Change Nut, Change string spacing

Post by nmshu1 » Tue May 09, 2017 8:32 pm

Wider strings spacing at nut from 40 to 42.5mm, better sound! I mean with 12 holes tie. But more difficult to play...
Last edited by nmshu1 on Mon May 22, 2017 11:03 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Otto Vowinkel Concert 650 Cedar/BRW
German V Rubio Concert 635 Spruce/Maple
Kenny Hill Performance 630 Spruce+Cedar/Maple
Juan Hernandez Torres 640 Spruce/IRW
Cordoba C9 650 Cedar/Mahogany
Sweet Tone 640 Spruce/RW

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