String Surprise (Augustine Imperial Black)

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String Surprise (Augustine Imperial Black)

Post by DaveLeeNC » Sun Jan 15, 2017 1:19 pm

I am not an experienced CG player and do not have a well refined 'ear for things CG'. I had been playing LaBella 2001 (Light Tension) on my 1980's Jesus Marzal guitar. As I said I don't have a ton of experience so tried a set of Augustine Imperial Black strings as an experiment. I was surprised to find that I did not like them. They somehow sounded dull compared to the 2001's (to my ear on my guitar). And (not suprisingly) they are just slightly harder to play.

I was surprised at my own reaction and am guessing that it is a function of your guitar and your ears/expectation.

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Re: String Surprise (Augustine Imperial Black)

Post by Paul Janssen » Sun Jan 15, 2017 1:35 pm

How long have you had them on for? If you've only just put them on it might be worth sticking with them for a week or so before passing judgment. Having said that, could very well be they are the not the strings for you or your guitar.

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Re: String Surprise (Augustine Imperial Black)

Post by DaveLeeNC » Sun Jan 15, 2017 1:55 pm

I had them on for 4 to 6 weeks - until I felt like they were beginning to "dull out". My reaction when they first went on was instantaneous but I expected things to change over a few days. It just never happened. So I went back to the 2001's and will probably stay with those for a while.

dave
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1975 Gibson ES-175D Achtop Electric
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Re: String Surprise (Augustine Imperial Black)

Post by riemsesy » Sun Jan 15, 2017 2:17 pm

I have still a set of these imperial black laying around. I am playing with labella's too.
So next time I'll change the strings I can try the imperial black strings and see if I experience the same
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Re: String Surprise (Augustine Imperial Black)

Post by Jacek A. Rochacki » Sun Jan 15, 2017 3:13 pm

I think that it is a question of a guitar and, perhaps, personal sonic prefrences. Following advice by @Ramon Amira I play Augustine Black/Imperial on my Picado and I like the sound a lot.
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Re: String Surprise (Augustine Imperial Black)

Post by astro64 » Sun Jan 15, 2017 5:50 pm

I just put on the Imperial treble set after the PEPESR La Bella. The imperials are more neutral sounding than the Pepe set, but do sound very good. Very clean sound from string to string, no notes that jump out. Less excitement, perhaps, but also a bit easier to get consistent tone. E.g. with the Pepe set some treble notes could sound very metallic when playing closer to the bridge. Not so with the imperials. This undoubtedly is also determined by the guitar, not just the strings, but it goes to show that one person's "blandness" in sound may be another person's "bliss" in getting a consistent sound.

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Re: String Surprise (Augustine Imperial Black)

Post by tormodg » Mon Jan 16, 2017 1:21 am

I love the Imperial Blacks! I switched from HT strings to these and use them on both my guitars. Very happy with them.
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Re: String Surprise (Augustine Imperial Black)

Post by Jack Douglas » Mon Jan 16, 2017 2:08 am

I'm just waiting to install a set of Imperial Black basses with a set of Low Tension (Green pack) Hannabach trebles. I installed a set of low tension Hauser strings last night and I'm thrilled. I have always used high tension or medium high tension, but moved to medium, then normal tension and now low tension. I may settle on normal tension, but I am duly impressed with these low tension strings. The tone is rich, clear, sweet, almost 'jazz tone' like.
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Re: String Surprise (Augustine Imperial Black)

Post by brian » Mon Jan 16, 2017 10:25 am

just finished putting on a treble set
and this thread is here. they've only
been on 22.3 minutes, but they are
holding pitch pretty quickly.
hope there's no intonation problems,
had enough of that for a long while.
(right petermc61?)

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if at first you don't succeed try again.
then quit.
there's no use being a damn fool about it.
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Re: String Surprise (Augustine Imperial Black)

Post by petermc61 » Mon Jan 16, 2017 11:04 am

Right, Brian! :D

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Re: String Surprise (Augustine Imperial Black)

Post by Jack Douglas » Mon Jan 16, 2017 12:22 pm

brian wrote:just finished putting on a treble set
and this thread is here. they've only
been on 22.3 minutes, but they are
holding pitch pretty quickly.
hope there's no intonation problems,
had enough of that for a long while.
(right petermc61?)

p.s.-Jack,
Congratulations on the new
HauserIII !!!
Thank you, Brian!
Jack
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Re: String Surprise (Augustine Imperial Black)

Post by daverkb » Fri Jun 30, 2017 11:01 pm

I have just put some Augustine Black basses on my Malapanis cedar top. The Black pack is a light tension string whereas I have been using medium and high tension basses. To my surprise and delight, the Black strings are in no way flabby and have a nice finger feel. The sound is like rich ambered honey, robust and full of color. The Black basses are matched with Regal trebles, bright and clear. But my ideal pairing would be with the Imperial trebles, for added color and lighter tension.

Guys! When it comes to strings, it is a lot what the guitar likes, but all said -- the Augustine Imperial Black selection is real nice choice and the price is right. I'll be ordering Imperial Black in the future.

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