Hannabach tensions

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es335
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Re: Hannabach tensions

Post by es335 » Thu Oct 19, 2017 9:28 am

celestemcc wrote:
Thu Oct 19, 2017 12:08 am
... Thanks, I wondered about this! Now if only the 815 sets came in medium-hard tension! I like the tension of the 200s but slightly prefer the sound (and very much prefer the price) of the 815s!
Even at the risk to repeat myself, Hannabach offers all 815 strings in half sets, so it’s no problem to combine 815 black/MT trebles with 815 blue/HT basses! :wink: :D

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Re: Hannabach tensions

Post by celestemcc » Thu Oct 19, 2017 1:23 pm

Hannabach offers all 815 strings in half sets
Oh, yes (and I'll experiment with this) but I want it all, *all, ALL, I tell you! :lol:

(Actually I really would like the 815 basses in medium-high...)
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Re: Hannabach tensions

Post by Pede » Thu Oct 19, 2017 7:47 pm

es335 wrote:
Wed Oct 18, 2017 5:51 pm
Hannabach 815 and Silver 200 differ only in the basses.
In both cases the trebles are precision round 815 strings of the corresponding tension rating!
I’m not shure about that, How do you know?
They sound different for me.
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Re: Hannabach tensions

Post by es335 » Fri Oct 20, 2017 1:57 pm

Pede wrote:
Thu Oct 19, 2017 7:47 pm
es335 wrote:
Wed Oct 18, 2017 5:51 pm
Hannabach 815 and Silver 200 differ only in the basses.
In both cases the trebles are precision round 815 strings of the corresponding tension rating!
I’m not shure about that, How do you know?
They sound different for me.
It's clearly written in the product description, Nylon, clear, precision round. This is Hannabach's top quality Nylon variant introduced with the 815 series. The tension chart of typical average tensions shows a difference of 0.1 kg between HT and MHT, which IMHO is not significant and within the dimensional tolerance. Older catalogues show different values indicating that b and g are identical to 815 HT and e slightly thinner (-0.2 kg).

I do believe that they sound different because basses do have an retroactive effect on the trebles. They don't turn black into white but assuming trebles are paired with brighter basses, it will brighten up the trebles to some extend too. That's at least my experience! :wink: :D

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Re: Hannabach tensions

Post by celestemcc » Fri Oct 20, 2017 3:08 pm

The tension chart of typical average tensions shows a difference of 0.1 kg between HT and MHT, which IMHO is not significant and within the dimensional tolerance. Older catalogues show different values indicating that b and g are identical to 815 HT and e slightly thinner (-0.2 kg).
It's not my imagination though: the strings do feel softer than the 815 HT and a bit harder than the 815 MT. No buzzing. and the trebles are taking a bit longer to settle (that may be a matter of perception, I'll allow). The strings do sound a bit different (definitely the basses).
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Re: Hannabach tensions

Post by es335 » Fri Oct 20, 2017 3:48 pm

celestemcc wrote:
Fri Oct 20, 2017 3:08 pm
... It's not my imagination though: the strings do feel softer than the 815 HT and a bit harder than the 815 MT. No buzzing. and the trebles are taking a bit longer to settle (that may be a matter of perception, I'll allow). The strings do sound a bit different (definitely the basses).
The basses make them feel different of course. Just think about Augustin Classics black, Red and Blue. Identical trebles but the sets feel significantly different because the basses do have different tensions. :wink:
Anyway, Hannabach Silver 900/200 strings are very nice and reknown luthiers in Germany do prefer them over 815 sets! :D

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Re: Hannabach tensions

Post by celestemcc » Fri Oct 20, 2017 4:00 pm

Hannabach Silver 900/200 strings are very nice
Ha, yes: I learned about them from Steve Connor, who made my guitar. He may have created an addict, darn him.
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Re: Hannabach tensions

Post by Rognvald » Sun Oct 22, 2017 11:52 pm

Hi, Celeste,
I've been playing Hannabach Gold/Medium for over 15 years. I play 3 cedar guitars: LoPrinzi, Brune and Esteve. The LP and the Esteve are darker guitars and I play Hannabach Silvers, EJ45's and Savarez carbons and they work very well on them depending what sound I'm after. I use the Golds on the Brune and it is as close to a perfect sound as one can get on a CG ,for me, since it is a brighter Cedar than the other guitars. In my opinion, you first must "know" your guitar. And, the only way that is possible is to play several guitars in a rotation over a several month period playing a different guitar every day. You will be amazed how much you will discover a guitar's true personality and how easy it is to choose the right strings. It is also how I discovered a "wolf tone" on one of them that had puzzled me for years. No instrument exists in isolation. I hope this helps. Playing again . . . Rognvald
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Re: Hannabach tensions

Post by Laudiesdad69 » Tue Oct 24, 2017 8:08 pm

es335 wrote:
Fri Oct 20, 2017 3:48 pm
celestemcc wrote:
Fri Oct 20, 2017 3:08 pm
... It's not my imagination though: the strings do feel softer than the 815 HT and a bit harder than the 815 MT. No buzzing. and the trebles are taking a bit longer to settle (that may be a matter of perception, I'll allow). The strings do sound a bit different (definitely the basses).
The basses make them feel different of course. Just think about Augustin Classics black, Red and Blue. Identical trebles but the sets feel significantly different because the basses do have different tensions. :wink:
Anyway, Hannabach Silver 900/200 strings are very nice and reknown luthiers in Germany do prefer them over 815 sets! :D
I've played Augustine Classic Blue and red, and the trebles are of different diameters between the two. The blue classic trebles were too fat for the nut slot on the blue High E, not the case with classic red.

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