Strings for Cordoba C10 SP/IN

Choice of classical guitar strings and technical issues connected with their use.
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Renee's Dad
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Re: Strings for Cordoba C10 SP/IN

Post by Renee's Dad » Mon Dec 19, 2016 11:14 pm

pasigenyo wrote:. . . Perhaps give it a few more years and it will finally sound better, but for now, relying on what strings to use just to produce a good sound is pretty much a red flag to potential owners that there are better guitars out there.

My impression from this thread is that the search is for which strings generally sound BEST on the C10, not a search for which strings are required to make it sound GOOD. I can't imagine this guitar sounding bad with even the crappiest of strings, whatever those are.

I went with the medium-tension Hannabachs for my first string change (8 weeks from purchase), and to be honest, haven't found much of a difference in sound, except perhaps for the basses being less pronounced. It's only been two days, so we'll see. They are certainly good enough, but I find them to be of a lower tension than I had anticipated, based on comments above. I'm predicting I will show a preference for higher tension strings on my "re-start" of guitar - such an excellent tactile experience, this instrument.
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Re: Strings for Cordoba C10 SP/IN

Post by scottszone » Tue Dec 20, 2016 5:03 pm

Another important thing to keep in mind is right hand technique and nail quality has a huge impact on string balance and volume. I have found many beginner/intermediate players have a heavy thumb and use little or no damping. This causes a bass heavy sound with ringing overtones that overpower the trebles. Scratchy thin nails can also cause a weak treble tone.

I've had more than one student blame technical issues and improper tone production on their strings and/or guitar.

The Savarez Cristal Corum 500CJ tends to be a very balanced sparkly yet warm and loud set of strings. The trebles have no problem ringing louder and longer than the basses with a balanced right hand. They take about 3 -5 days to settle in and produce the loud singing fat tone they are know for and last about 2 - 3 months depending on playing time.

No less than Fredric Zigante uses the 500CJ exclusively and I'm pretty sure he could use any strings he wanted to. Might be worth giving them another listen.
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Re: Strings for Cordoba C10 SP/IN

Post by pasigenyo » Tue Dec 20, 2016 8:21 pm

Renee's Dad wrote: My impression from this thread is that the search is for which strings generally sound BEST on the C10, not a search for which strings are required to make it sound GOOD. I can't imagine this guitar sounding bad with even the crappiest of strings, whatever those are.
What's the difference? :? What else can this thread be about if you can just string up the C10 with anything and it will still sound GOOD? Sound production is influenced by the technique that you use (and your skill level) as well as the tool itself (i.e. the guitar). I'm not sure if you have a problem with my stern warning to future owners, but you can sing praises about your guitar as much as I want to mention truthful experiences about mine. I also spent a couple of sentences explaining what my issues are about my guitar and how I was able to overcome some of those with the right strings. So yes, my C10 sounds BAD with any other strings other than the set I settled with. That's my story and I'm sticking to it :)

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Re: Strings for Cordoba C10 SP/IN

Post by Renee's Dad » Thu Dec 22, 2016 7:03 am

pasigenyo wrote:. . . So yes, my C10 sounds BAD with any other strings other than the set I settled with. That's my story and I'm sticking to it :)
I now believe you should, in fact, stick to it. We have to realize we are all playing different C10s, and so our generalizations can only go so far. But the Hannabachs, after less than a week on, are beginning to sound b..., b... B.. -

Less good.

And the 5th string is beginning to unwind at the bridge - after 5 days?

Will soon be going back to Savarez.
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Re: Strings for Cordoba C10 SP/IN

Post by Renee's Dad » Tue Mar 07, 2017 9:29 pm

I'm still running through a variety of strings on my C10, changing every 6 weeks or so. At this point I prefer the Savarez 520R "red cards" - they just feel "right" to me. They are listed as Rectified Nylon trebles paired with Traditional Wound basses. I'm currently playing another Savarez string, but immediately found myself missing the rectified trebles, which was a surprise. I'm considering trying the "yellow card" 520J next, which should be a true high tension string.
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Re: Strings for Cordoba C10 SP/IN

Post by jabliberty » Thu Oct 26, 2017 11:48 pm

Hey! I just saw this post! I owned a Cordoba C-10 for over 4 years. Loved it! Everything about it except the sound of the trebles. Because the bass strings are so strong, the trebs appear to be weak. Then someone at SBM suggested I try a set of Augustine Imperial Reds. Bingo! The treble volume and voice became what I need...perfect balance bass to treble and the end of harsh tone. I have run Galli Genius GR65's for years but even they did not solve the balance problem. lMy current classical is a Jim Frieson. I switched to the Augustines on that instrument as well. Overall volume is now out of sight and the tone of this string is warm and bright without being harsh. I would highly recommend them for the Cordoba C10 especially!

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Re: Strings for Cordoba C10 SP/IN

Post by nmshu1 » Fri Oct 27, 2017 2:51 pm

For beginner and intermediate level player, Córdoba C9/C10 are excellent guitars with high tension strings such as Savarez 500 CJ and Hannabach 815 HT trebles + Augustine Blue base.
They are very good guitars when you play less 2 hours everyday. If you play about 4 hours everyday, you have to use Augustine Imperial Red. Or you have to use another better guitar...

High tension strings make them sound excellent, but you can not play it for >2 - 4 hrs everyday. Your left fingers can not afford it.

Medium/normal tension and light/low tension strings make them sound poor. That is why they are relatively cheaper...
Otto Vowinkel, Cedar/BRW 650; Juan Hernandez Torres, Spruce/IRW 640;
German V. Rubio, Spruce/MP 635; Kenny Hill Performance, Double Top(Spruce/Cedar)/MP 630;
German V. Rubio, Spruce/PE 635; Córdoba C9A&B, Cedar/MH 650; Sweet Tone, Spruce/RW 640

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Re: Strings for Cordoba C10 SP/IN

Post by Flapjack » Sun Oct 29, 2017 7:25 pm

nmshu1 wrote:
Fri Oct 27, 2017 2:51 pm
For beginner and intermediate level player, Córdoba C9/C10 are excellent guitars with high tension strings such as Savarez 500 CJ and Hannabach 815 HT trebles + Augustine Blue base.
They are very good guitars when you play less 2 hours everyday. If you play about 4 hours everyday, you have to use Augustine Imperial Red. Or you have to use another better guitar...

High tension strings make them sound excellent, but you can not play it for >2 - 4 hrs everyday. Your left fingers can not afford it.

Medium/normal tension and light/low tension strings make them sound poor. That is why they are relatively cheaper...
I have a Cordoba C9 cedar top and have tried Savarez 500CJ, 500CR, D'Addario EJ46, EJ45, EJ44, La Bella 2001 Hard, Augustine Classic Red, and Classic Blue. My favorites so far are EJ45. I tell you this because I have read over and over again about Savarez 500CJ in particular, and high tension strings in general, being the best for these Corodobas. Maybe for many they are, but definitely not for me. Just my opinion. Hope it helps.

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Re: Strings for Cordoba C10 SP/IN

Post by nmshu1 » Sun Oct 29, 2017 10:12 pm

I have two Córdoba C9s (Cedar top, Ebony fretboard not rosewood fretboard).

One guitar I kept using Savarez 500CJ, another guitar I tried various kinds of strings including:
D'Addario EJ45, EJ46, EJ43, Exp45, Exp46,
La Bella 2001 Medium, Light,
Augustine Imperial Red, Regal Blue,
Hannabach 815 HT trebles+Augustine Blue base,
Savarez 500CR, 510CR, 510CJ, 540R,
......

For the sound, I feel Savarez 500CJ, Augustine Regal Blue and Hannabach 815 HT treble+Augustine Blue base are the best.(about 92lb is the best)

It is common that everyone has his/her favorite. My favorites are La Bella Argento Pure Silver Medium tension strings (72lb), La Bella 2001 Medium (78lb), D'Addario EXP45 (82lb), EJ46 for 630/635 scale...

Remarks: Córdoba C9/C10 are the same design but different back and side material.
Otto Vowinkel, Cedar/BRW 650; Juan Hernandez Torres, Spruce/IRW 640;
German V. Rubio, Spruce/MP 635; Kenny Hill Performance, Double Top(Spruce/Cedar)/MP 630;
German V. Rubio, Spruce/PE 635; Córdoba C9A&B, Cedar/MH 650; Sweet Tone, Spruce/RW 640

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