D'Addario Pro Arte Carbon EJ45FF

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D'Addario Pro Arte Carbon EJ45FF

Post by Norman Spencer » Tue Aug 12, 2014 11:36 pm

Has anyone else tried the new D'Addario Carbon strings?
So far I have tried them on 3 guitars, 2 spruce tops and 1 cedar.

The results on the spruce tops were quite good, decidedly pleasant with good basses and very nice trebles, clear and strong without the harshness that make carbon strings unpleasant on some guitars.

The cedar top gave the best results I have ever noticed when trying new strings. WOW! This inexpensive Cordoba Dolce (the 7/8 size) woke up and sang to me. The basses found a new growl and the trebles which heretofore had sounded decidedly tubby rang like bells. The overall volume of the guitar was noticeably increased and the clarity and separation of the notes was a treat to my ears. My wife asked me if I had bought a new guitar. The answer is "Yes," for the price of a new set of strings. What a lovely surprise!

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Re: D'Addario Pro Arte Carbon EJ45FF

Post by Edward Aviza » Wed Aug 13, 2014 12:42 pm

I just bought three sets of the EJ46FF hard tension carbon strings and can't wait to try them. Looking forward, especially, to hearing them on my own instrument.

Good to know you have had a good experience with them, it might just force me to change my strings sooner...
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Re: D'Addario Pro Arte Carbon EJ45FF

Post by CurtVal » Thu Aug 21, 2014 10:35 pm

Just put them on my spruce Sakurai-Kohno. Beautiful sounding! I've been really into D'addario's titanium strings for their brightness and clarity, but the carbons are really great. Also quite bright, yet not as bright as the titaniums. It doesn't have the shrill that some carbons seem to have. Tremendous projection as well. Also has perfect intonation. That was the biggest thing for me as other carbons i've tried (Savarez, Oasis, Galli) sounded nice but would have intonation problems on the B string. These don't have that. Big win so far!

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Re: D'Addario Pro Arte Carbon EJ45FF

Post by petermc61 » Fri Aug 22, 2014 12:22 am

If they are duller than other brands' carbons the same way their nylons are generally duller than many other nylons, it might bring them into the zone of possible use on the first and second string. Carbons have to REALLY be on the sweeter end of the spectrum for me to seriously consider them, other than for a third string (where they are generally better than nylon). It is a shame they don't sell a treble only set since bundling them with the Dynacore basses will limit their market reach in my view.

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Re: D'Addario Pro Arte Carbon EJ45FF

Post by mando48 » Tue Sep 30, 2014 12:43 pm

I tried them, the treble strings broke quickly

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Re: D'Addario Pro Arte Carbon EJ45FF

Post by Muggins Simoon » Tue Sep 30, 2014 8:50 pm

mando48 wrote:I tried them, the treble strings broke quickly
The high E string broke a day after I put it on. Having said that, I loved the tone. The bases are rich and textured. The trebels are almost as loud and punchy as the bases. They have a very fast response and penetrating, pure tone. Intonation stabilized quickly. My guitar feels very balanced and responsive with this set. I could tell the first string was going to have problems and sure enough it broke. I hope to avoid this in the future as I love this set. I have moved towards D'addario in recent months away from Hannabach. I like the rich textures of the Dynacore basses. They are comparable to the Hannabach 815's and much more reliable and consistent. Any tips for avoiding future string breakages with the D'addario carbon high E?
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Re: D'Addario Pro Arte Carbon EJ45FF

Post by ddawson2012 » Mon Oct 06, 2014 5:33 pm

mando48 wrote:I tried them, the treble strings broke quickly
Mando - don from D'Addario here - mind if I ask where the string broke? Tuner - saddle, nut - mid - string?

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Re: D'Addario Pro Arte Carbon EJ45FF

Post by ddawson2012 » Mon Oct 06, 2014 5:34 pm

Muggins Simoon wrote:
mando48 wrote:I tried them, the treble strings broke quickly
The high E string broke a day after I put it on. Having said that, I loved the tone. The bases are rich and textured. The trebels are almost as loud and punchy as the bases. They have a very fast response and penetrating, pure tone. Intonation stabilized quickly. My guitar feels very balanced and responsive with this set. I could tell the first string was going to have problems and sure enough it broke. I hope to avoid this in the future as I love this set. I have moved towards D'addario in recent months away from Hannabach. I like the rich textures of the Dynacore basses. They are comparable to the Hannabach 815's and much more reliable and consistent. Any tips for avoiding future string breakages with the D'addario carbon high E?

Muggins - we're sorry to hear that the string broke prematurely on you - my email is don.dawson2@daddario.com. - shoot me a note and we'll get you a replacement, if you're interested.

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Re: D'Addario Pro Arte Carbon EJ45FF

Post by HNLim » Mon Oct 06, 2014 6:16 pm

I purchased 2 sets of EJ45FF recently, planning to try them on my guitars. Fate had it that a friend of mine asked me to refurbish his 1978 M. Sakurai that had strings which in my opinion is probably 3 to 4 years old. After finishing the restoration, the EJ45FF was the only strings available and I did a string change on his Sakurai. A fantastic transformation took place and the Sakurai suddenly became so much more punchy and loud. Over the next 2 days, it became even more pronounced. I noticed the gap between the Sakurai and my Yamaha GC30A closing up after the string change.

I had a set of EJ45TT on my Yamaha GC30A which is still quite new. Unable to resist changing the strings on my Yamaha, I did the next best thing. I just remove the treble and replace with the EJ45FF's trebles. I am very fascinated at the transformation. The treble is fantastically clearer and I noticed an ever more dramatic improvement over the next 2 days. I am not sure if the EJ45TT and EJ45FF share the same bass strings. I hope not, as I have yet to change the bass and was hoping that it can bring my already punchy bass on my Yamaha to a new level. (Keeping my fingers crossed).

The strings seems nicer to play and nicer to hear as well. I never expected it to be clearer than the Titanium strings. What shocked me even more is the G-strings of the EJ45FF sounded even better than the Seguar that I used. I love this set of treble strings.

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Re: D'Addario Pro Arte Carbon EJ45FF

Post by MarkInLA » Wed Oct 08, 2014 1:24 am

Sorry, I am just now hearing about carbon strings. Am I to gather that they are not wound, but solid, smooth, squeak less ? ! That in itself would be a done deal for me...

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Re: D'Addario Pro Arte Carbon EJ45FF

Post by ddawson2012 » Fri Oct 10, 2014 7:42 pm

MarkInLA wrote:Sorry, I am just now hearing about carbon strings. Am I to gather that they are not wound, but solid, smooth, squeak less ? ! That in itself would be a done deal for me...
No, they're still wound - Carbon refers to a special type of nylon for the trebles.

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Re: D'Addario Pro Arte Carbon EJ45FF

Post by clebar » Mon Oct 20, 2014 9:01 pm

The tension of the Normal (medium) 1st string is 21 lbs...that seems pretty high. Do you guys notice a big difference in playability with the treble set?
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Re: D'Addario Pro Arte Carbon EJ45FF

Post by HNLim » Tue Oct 21, 2014 9:30 am

Yes! I noticed it and it suits my guitars very well.

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Re: D'Addario Pro Arte Carbon EJ45FF

Post by Theo » Fri Feb 06, 2015 1:34 pm

The normal tension trebles have the best intonation so far found in carbon!! Spot on! The basses are good too. Would like to try the high tension trebles but no longer use high tension basses. Would be nice if there was a third option with high tension trebles and normal tension basses. Last time I checked, doesn't look like anyone, e.g., SBM, provides the treble sets by themselves so hope this is coming soon ...
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Re: D'Addario Pro Arte Carbon EJ45FF

Post by Moje » Sat Feb 07, 2015 7:24 pm

I love them, my Saez is excellent for an off-the-shelf gtr in the $1000 range and the high-tension carbons help me get the most out of it. Frankly I take stories of breakage with a grain of salt, these strings are very strong, but a little tricky to tie . . . .
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