Händel, G. F. - Menuet in G minor, HWV434/4 - Video

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Händel, G. F. - Menuet in G minor, HWV434/4 - Video

Post by bert » Thu Mar 30, 2017 8:16 am

This beautiful piece is number 100 on my site, with score of course. Transposed to E minor, but with capo in 3rd position we're back at G minor as in the original score.

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Post by soltirefa » Thu Mar 30, 2017 1:56 pm

Very nice, Bert. I have always liked this piece. Thanks for the score, too.

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Post by bert » Thu Mar 30, 2017 2:51 pm

Thanks for your comment.
soltirefa wrote:I have always liked this piece.
I just discovered it a short while ago, when I was searching youtube for the other menuets I arranged. It's a beautiful piece, so I was surprised that I couldn't find any youtube videos of guitarists playing this. There's another arrangement of this on http://www.yatesguitar.com, so it's not completely overlooked by guitarists.

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Post by soltirefa » Fri Mar 31, 2017 2:52 am

Here's another arrangement in A minor from Minami's website.

http://minamihuhu.web.fc2.com/pdf/hd_menu3.pdf

I remember there was an outstanding version of this piece played by Kaare Norge. When I clicked on the link in a very old thread at RMCG I saw this on YouTube.

"Kaare Norge - M..." This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by Sony Music Denmark.

EDIT - I found it, but the link has changed.

https://youtu.be/StBDwM3-9Qk

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Post by bert » Fri Mar 31, 2017 7:13 am

soltirefa wrote:Here's another arrangement in A minor from Minami's website.

http://minamihuhu.web.fc2.com/pdf/hd_menu3.pdf
In A minor, just like the one on yatesguitar.com, but more difficult. It would take a better (or just another) guitarist than me to play Minami's arrangement musically. I just tried it, but was struggling technically. That stretch in bar 4 is too much for me, although it could be played with an f bass note on 4rd string. The advantage of arranging it in A minor is some more room for the accompaniment. Everything is closer together in my arrangement, maybe giving the result a bit less depth. He and Yates are a lot more accurate by including all the ornamentation, but everybody is free to do that to my arrangement too. Well, arranging is compromising.

I'll try to seek Kaare Norge's version. I always liked what I heard from him.
update: Found his version. Very tasteful, as I suspected. I could play along with him, so he either kept it in G minor or he also dropped to E minor and then played with capo in 3rd position. He included the ornamentation and extra bass notes, filling up the arrangement a bit. Funny thing was that in my bars 37/38, I thought about transposing the melody up 1 octave but decided against it. Obviously he decided for it.

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Post by soltirefa » Fri Mar 31, 2017 2:21 pm

Very interesting observations, Bert. Probably he is doing as you did, play it in E minor with a capo. Anyway, I think you did well on this one. The piece sounds good even without any ornaments.

Did you see this guy playing it in G minor. It's okay, but he needs to play it a bit choppy because the shifting is hard.

https://youtu.be/9u7GIyccakQ

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Post by bert » Fri Mar 31, 2017 2:31 pm

soltirefa wrote: Did you see this guy playing it in G minor. It's okay, but he needs to play it a bit choppy because the shifting is hard.

https://youtu.be/9u7GIyccakQ
I saw that video just this morning. He did indeed make it hard on himself. I don't know if he made his score by hand or with software, but programs like Finale, MuseScore etc. make it so easy to try different keys and consequently a lot easier to make a playable arrangement

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Post by Isabelle Frizac » Fri Mar 31, 2017 4:55 pm

Nice pictures and nice music :casque:

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Post by bert » Fri Mar 31, 2017 5:04 pm

Hi Isabelle,
Thank you for your comments.
Regards, Bert

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Post by Luuttuaja » Fri Mar 31, 2017 9:34 pm

Thank you Bert for this beautiful piece!

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Post by spanishguitarmusic » Fri Mar 31, 2017 11:52 pm

Very nice playing Bert, I liked it very much! Thanks for sharing it.

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Post by Jeffrey Armbruster » Sat Apr 01, 2017 12:37 am

Wonderful playing of a very beautiful piece indeed. Thanks for making the score available. I now have yours and the Yates version. I'm tip toeing around with both. The last thing I need is a new piece to learn. But I'm trying to learn the fret board so the Yates is good for that. I definitely want to learn this one day, one version or the other.

Are you committed to the fingerings on your tab?
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Post by soltirefa » Sat Apr 01, 2017 12:47 am

Bert, if you're up for the challenge, I suggest you try going through Kaare Norge's version and put it to paper. You have already done the hardest part.

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Post by bert » Sat Apr 01, 2017 8:15 am

Thank you all for your kind remarks.
Jeffrey Armbruster wrote:Are you committed to the fingerings on your tab?
No, just do what you like best. I used to not include fingerings, because I wasn't sure my solutions were the best ones. That's still the case, but they might be of some help, but can also be ignored. I never use the tab, but try to edit it as accurate as possible after I copy the score to that system.
soltirefa wrote:Bert, if you're up for the challenge, I suggest you try going through Kaare Norge's version and put it to paper. You have already done the hardest part.
Some of those extra notes for the bass lines might end up in a revised version.

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Re: Händel, G. F. - Menuet in G minor, HWV434/4 - Video

Post by Feynman » Sat Apr 01, 2017 3:20 pm

Bert, that was really lovely, and you have inspired me. Thank you for this.
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