If you haven't heard them already, enjoy this video. They play on original 19th-C guitars, with gut and silk strings, no nails, play standing with straps, and can play beautifully when needed, and brilliantly when needed, sometimes both at the same time
Postby powderedtoastman » Sat Feb 11, 2017 4:34 am
Both of those are fantastic.
I wouldn't mind starting a duo like this but I don't think I will find somebody else locally to play with who shares my enthusiasm for the romantic guitar. Seems like most of the players I've met are leaning more on the modern side.
Looks like we have to play standing up these days! I can't remember seeing any 19thC method book advocating it, or any illustrations, save for the one on the cover of Thomas Heck's book on Giuliani. But why not? If it helps, then I'm all for it.
Ha, they're great, and also standing. Did I miss the meeting where it was decided that all 19thC guitar players must play standing? These two appear to have a small button behind the heel, pulling the guitar snug to their body. I once had a classical with a strap attached to the head (there was a strap button at the base of the instrument) which I didn't like at all. But the button at the heel looks more workable.
Standing seems to require, according to these videos, at least a bit of "dancing" while you play. It's quite a contrast to the concert guitarists who will sit down and only move their hands for an hour. But these videos are great to watch and these period instruments sound really good when played as duo. It's a bit similar "magic" as good lute duos have.
Most early 19 th century guitars had a button at the end graft position. The Panormo sometimes had one near the heel position as well but of course with a strap you can play either standing or seated. I've tried a strap but seated, didn't really get on with it. Now I should try strap but standing. I have a feeling that it may suit me as I have a long standing (oops) back problem. I think being able to move could be advantageous.
At the very bottom of the guitar, the usual place where buttons are placed.
Courtesy of Arthur Robb. A Panormo with the two buttons on the back of the guitar. I guess they may have been for a strap or for a ribbon fixed between the two buttons. Those two buttons on the back aren't uncommon on baroque guitars, especially late French. They are not common on French romantic guitars, so at some point they seem to have fallen out of favour. An awful lot of Panormos seem to have them though. I don't know why that is the case. It may have been clothing fashion or Panormo was just carrying on a tradition.
Yes, that's one theory. The other being that the two buttons on the back of the guitar were installed so that the guitar could be laid on a table. Nothing to prevent them having a dual purpose though. It's even possible that some used the ribbon on the waistcoat button and also used a guitar strap. Just like many modern players there must have been folk trying all manner of things, as evidenced by Aguado and his tripod, Sor and his table. I've come across an old engraving of the guitar positioned on a chaise lounge with the player sat further to the neck end of the guitar.