Further Studies after finishing Carcassi Op.59 and Op.60?

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Further Studies after finishing Carcassi Op.59 and Op.60?

Post by nmshu1 » Mon Feb 22, 2016 11:25 pm

Any advices and suggestions after finishing studies of Carcassi Op.59 and Op.60 ?

Further progressive studies?:

1. Sor advanced studies Op.6 and Op.29 ?
2. Regondi 10 Etudes ?
3. Zani de Ferranti 44 exercises?
4. Segovia Edition "twenty Etudes of Sor" ?
5. Villa-Lobos 12 Etudes ?

.......


Any comments?

Thanks in advance!
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Re: Further Studies after finishing Carcassi Op.59 and Op.60?

Post by Kent » Mon Feb 22, 2016 11:51 pm

Finishing the studies?
They should be played throughout your classical guitar life!

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Re: Further Studies after finishing Carcassi Op.59 and Op.60?

Post by nmshu1 » Tue Feb 23, 2016 3:55 am

Kent wrote:Finishing the studies?
They should be played throughout your classical guitar life!
You are right. I should keep practice and refresh/re-polish it through out my classical guitar life. However I want to learn more...to finish Carcassi Op.59, 60 and 26 is not the end...
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Re: Further Studies after finishing Carcassi Op.59 and Op.60?

Post by Rasqeo » Tue Feb 23, 2016 7:11 am

The question is slightly odd if I may say so. If you've 'finished' Carcassi Op 60 in the sense that you can play all 25 studies to a high standard then I would say you already have the technique and ability to play pretty much whatever you want so you should be seeking out studies to address particular areas in your playing you want to improve further.

Some of the other studies you mention would probably be of little benefit to you now if you're already playing at this high level. Are you also playing advanced repertoire? If so that would be my main focus at this stage but of course you don't need me to tell you that.

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Re: Further Studies after finishing Carcassi Op.59 and Op.60?

Post by nmshu1 » Tue Feb 23, 2016 8:43 am

Rasqeo wrote:The question is slightly odd if I may say so. If you've 'finished' Carcassi Op 60 in the sense that you can play all 25 studies to a high standard then I would say you already have the technique and ability to play pretty much whatever you want so you should be seeking out studies to address particular areas in your playing you want to improve further.

Some of the other studies you mention would probably be of little benefit to you now if you're already playing at this high level. Are you also playing advanced repertoire? If so that would be my main focus at this stage but of course you don't need me to tell you that.
Thank you for your comments. Yes, I was playing some advanced repertoires such as Last Tremolo and Dream in the Forest by Barrios. You are right. Maybe I should focus some particular areas in my playing to improve further. But I am not very sure because I teach myself.

Anyway, thank you again for your comments!
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Re: Further Studies after finishing Carcassi Op.59 and Op.60?

Post by djajasoekarta » Tue Feb 23, 2016 12:45 pm

I think better to look at one or two serious concert pieces. Sor Op.33 or Op.36 is a nice starter and IMO pretty much under the finger if you've mastered the Carcassi's Op.60

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Re: Further Studies after finishing Carcassi Op.59 and Op.60?

Post by OktoberStorm » Wed Feb 24, 2016 12:20 am

Kent wrote:Finishing the studies?
They should be played throughout your classical guitar life!
I don't agree. You should move on and work on studies that further challenge your technique. Practicing something for too long just makes it go stale, and you'll have diminishing results.

Based on the very little knowledge I have about you I'd say that before you shelve op 60 have a teacher look at it (online) and give you some advice. S/he will help you squeeze out some extra and raise the bar a little bit.

Then you could move on to a new set of etudes. I recommend putting together your own set. Or you could start with Iznaola's Kitharologus and/or Brouwers 20 easy etudes.

Set some concrete goals, reach them, and move on.

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Re: Further Studies after finishing Carcassi Op.59 and Op.60?

Post by Kent » Wed Feb 24, 2016 1:00 am

OktoberStorm wrote:
Kent wrote:Finishing the studies?
They should be played throughout your classical guitar life!
I don't agree. You should move on and work on studies that further challenge your technique. Practicing something for too long just makes it go stale, and you'll have diminishing results.
Surely you jest!

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Re: Further Studies after finishing Carcassi Op.59 and Op.60?

Post by OktoberStorm » Wed Feb 24, 2016 11:45 am

No, I don't "jest". You don't progress by repeating the same etudes past a certain point.

And the next time you feel like taking that tone, instead back your claims up with something.

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Re: Further Studies after finishing Carcassi Op.59 and Op.60?

Post by Luis_Br » Fri Mar 04, 2016 11:38 pm

Brouwer studies or Ponce preludes and try to work on different sound and character as you change the style. I think giving proper mood and personality to those pieces is a nice challenge to work on...

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Re: Further Studies after finishing Carcassi Op.59 and Op.60?

Post by RoryJohn » Sat Mar 05, 2016 12:36 am

OktoberStorm wrote:S/he will help you squeeze out some extra .
I, too, visit a transgender proctologist.
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Re: Further Studies after finishing Carcassi Op.59 and Op.60?

Post by nmshu1 » Sat Apr 09, 2016 12:26 am

I am studying Villa Lobos Prelude No.1 and Barrios Julia Florida.
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Re: Further Studies after finishing Carcassi Op.59 and Op.60?

Post by Richard Salazar » Sun Apr 10, 2016 5:55 am

The Sagreras Method books 5 and 6. Challenging, beautiful, focused, and fun.

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Re: Further Studies after finishing Carcassi Op.59 and Op.60?

Post by Richard Salazar » Sun Apr 10, 2016 5:56 am

I think you can get both here for free.

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Re: Further Studies after finishing Carcassi Op.59 and Op.60?

Post by nmshu1 » Sun Apr 24, 2016 10:43 am

I found many excellent players who did not follow the sheet music.
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