Current Right Hand Technique: Are Shearer, Presti still valid?

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Re: Current Right Hand Technique: Are Shearer, Presti still valid?

Post by Jack Douglas » Thu Jan 12, 2017 7:05 pm

robert e wrote:
astro64 wrote:I would just add, if you are interested in getting good tone and good habits for RH position etc, a good video is worth more than a dozen books. You just can't get the information from a description and a few photos or drawings.
And a good teacher is worth a hundred videos.
A good teacher I've found, a former colleague of Aaron Shearer.
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Re: Current Right Hand Technique: Are Shearer, Presti still valid?

Post by robert e » Thu Jan 12, 2017 7:49 pm

Luis_Br wrote:IMO, inner tensions are by far more important than the outside view. In my experience and with two other very important teachers I know here, wrist not enough relaxed is commonly the main technical problem, the second is the shoulder. Relaxed wrist is important no matter you use Presti or Shearer style of wrist. Even to a straight wrist, you recquire just a tiny bit of tension to keep it straight. Even with an overrelaxed falling wrist, there is some tension to adjust finger position and angle... A high level advanced player should be able to play well with different wrist and finger angles, choosing the way he likes the most due to his musical choice.
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Re: Current Right Hand Technique: Are Shearer, Presti still valid?

Post by Brooke Martin » Sat Nov 25, 2017 3:32 pm

Doesn't Shearer drop his wrist a lot more than in the straight-wrist modern technique? (That's what the photos indicate.) And how straight, and also how relaxed, should the wrist be with the modern right-hand technique? Are there a lot of variations among different players? And do some still prefer the Shearer technique to the straighter wrist? Do some find that there's tension with the straighter wrist? Having learned the old technique with the dropped wrist, it's a step overcoming all of the old strictures on the relaxed, dropped (or bent) wrist and the resulting angle with the fingernails. In olden times (the days of Segovia, Bream, etc.), the argument was that the dropped, relaxed wrist eliminated tension and stress and also led to the best sound and best projection. One could even hear the improved projection when the technique was worked on. With skiing, the new technique is based on the new shape of the skis (parabolic). With the guitar, it's based on an evolution of ideas--in fact, maybe one that could eventually revert to older ideas. Curiously, I do notice an improvement in sound with the straight wrist (shattering long-held beliefs about the old technique), and yet sound quality was one of the principal reasons given for the old technique back in the day. Moreover, a lot of teachers have their own different ideas. It's enough to drive one nuts. :?

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Re: Current Right Hand Technique: Are Shearer, Presti still valid?

Post by ronjazz » Sat Dec 16, 2017 2:39 pm

Well, it's difficult to keep up with changes in thinking about technique, but scholar/players like Chris Berg have been following advances in sports medicine and research for athletes, and much of that work can be applied to playing an instrument. Shearer died some time ago, so photos of his positions may not be as relevant as they once were. Individual physiologies are also remarkably different, and it would seem that each player needs to account for that. Sharon Isbin developed her remarkable sound and technique by practicing in front of a mirror; this is an excellent idea (or videoing your practice sessions). "Mindful" or "deliberate" practice has assumed a new importance, given the high incidence of injury and focal dystonia among virtuoso players. Those really interested in the mechanics of playing should read Berg on line and in his published materials, and looking into Anders Ericsson's brilliant work won't hurt either.
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