What was your first tremolo piece?

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Re: What was your first tremolo piece?

Post by Marshall Dixon » Mon Mar 13, 2017 3:10 am

Greensleeves - Frederic Noad's version from his Solo Classical Guitar Book 1.

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Re: What was your first tremolo piece?

Post by guitareleven » Tue Mar 14, 2017 8:25 pm

A compás or two of Soleares, back in the beginning, when I thought I was a flamenco player (I wasn't). Then, my first actually decent guitar teacher gave me as an exercise, a few bars of what I subsequently discovered to be the beginning of Carcassi's 7th etude, and I was onto a path more typical of those already recounted in this thread. A suggestion was made as to your first essaying as an introduction to the technique, a tremolo piece with most of its emphasis on first string tremolo. This is a valid pedogogical thought, though the flip side of it may be that that would serve to ensconce the active technical interfaces that can make tremolo more difficult when moved to inner strings. Anyway, if this first foray is to be a significant piece with lasting place in your repertoire, then Una Limosna would fit this profile. The left hand demands really aren't that difficult, if one uses amenable fingerings, which aren't always those found in printed editions.

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Re: What was your first tremolo piece?

Post by David Norton » Tue Mar 14, 2017 8:46 pm

Carcassi #7 is a good choice. You might want to purchase "The Complete Study of Tremolo" by Vladimir Bobri. There's an excellent beginner tremolo piece at the end of that book, by Karl Ogden.

Another really good one is Ponce's "Preludio Corto #1" (not one of The Famous 24), though that piece engages the inner strings. It isn't meant to be played super fast so the student can maintain better control.
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Re: What was your first tremolo piece?

Post by Steve Langham » Wed Mar 15, 2017 12:17 am

There is also the Sagreras tremolo study in Book 3 Lesson 4 which you can download from this site.

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Re: What was your first tremolo piece?

Post by powderedtoastman » Mon Mar 20, 2017 5:56 am

I am actively avoiding doing any tremolo pieces!

Assuming Carcassi Op.60 No. (7? 9?) doesn't count (I would say it doesn't if you aren't trying to treat it as such).

I've seen different versions of Op. 60 where 7 and 9 are swapped, not sure which is which but I guess it should actually be 7?

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Re: What was your first tremolo piece?

Post by RectifiedGTRz » Wed Mar 29, 2017 3:00 pm

With recuerdos, the LH isn't much concern. However there are some barres that can start to burn especially if u take the repeats.

Malmsteen won't help with the right hand though. It's not hard to play but hard to make sound convincing. If it sounds like "rippling water" with a clear note sense you are doing it right.

There's a castle of Spain in the set Segovia never edited that has tremolo but it has two note chords on beat one. The carcassi study is what I used at first but it isn't really tremelo. If you do a p-a-m-I roll on each string Durant matter if you fret it then move to p on another string while keeping a-m-i on the first string you'll get closer to it. You can start slow then maybe had a "dotted" feel to help bring your accuracy up. I think that's also in one of the Noad books.
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Re: What was your first tremolo piece?

Post by MR.AWAW » Thu Sep 28, 2017 9:47 am

I think Paganini have 1 etude for tremolo study , but not so sure

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Re: What was your first tremolo piece?

Post by MR.AWAW » Thu Sep 28, 2017 9:48 am

I think Paganini have 1 etude for tremolo study , but not so sure

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Re: What was your first tremolo piece?

Post by CactusWren » Thu Sep 28, 2017 8:39 pm

I found that learning the trem on the 1st string was pretty easy, but I nearly had to relearn it to play on the 2nd string. You have so much more room on the 1st. If I had to do it over, I'd just learn it on the 2nd string, nice and slow.

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Re: What was your first tremolo piece?

Post by Rognvald » Fri Oct 20, 2017 12:15 am

Recuerdos. I was very fortunate to have a world-class teacher for my first teacher on CG. I was, however, a very advanced musician on another instrument, but began like a minimum wage laborer on the CG. I moved very quickly through the literature and before the end of the first year, my teacher introduced me to RDLA. I knew once I read the piece that it would be impossible to play acceptably and I told him that, based on my musical past, this was far beyond my current skill level. He said, "let's try it and see what happens." After 4 weeks, I told him that it was a waste of my time, it was beyond my skill level and it sounded so bad musically when I played it I couldn't stand to practice it any longer. I said I wanted to move to another piece more appropriate to my level, which we did, and I began again to climb the hill. I stayed with this teacher for several years and he helped me progress to levels I deemed acceptable to my time on the instrument. To this day, I still wonder why he chose that piece at such an early stage and how another less committed student might have quit. It is my opinion that some players, including those who are quite advanced, will never get a good clean, rhythmic tremolo. And, if you have had any serious trauma to your RH in the past, it will be impossible. So, in my previous discussion about whether tremolo was really necessary, I say again, No! Is it another tool in your box if it works? Sure. Does it make you less of a musician without it? That would be like telling a Cy Young award winning pitcher with a 100 mph fastball, slider, cutter, and roundhouse curveball that his greatness is not complete since he doesn't throw a knuckleball. Playing again . . .Rognvald P.S. I don't throw knuckleballs!
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Re: What was your first tremolo piece?

Post by sitnivez » Fri Oct 20, 2017 3:08 am

Una Limosna por el Amor de Dios by Barrios. The tremolo technique was mainly on the 1st string, so the right hand came together fairly quickly​ when paired with some tremolo exercises. The left hand difficulty, now that's a different story haha.

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Re: What was your first tremolo piece?

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Re: What was your first tremolo piece?

Post by Tomzooki » Fri Oct 20, 2017 2:59 pm

Sharon Vizcaino wrote:
Tue Feb 21, 2017 4:13 am
Mine was Campanas del Alba. Though back when I played steel-string I learned an arrangement of Hotel California that had an intro with tremolo. Which, being a kid learning on my own from YouTube, I proceeded to do completely wrong. Sometimes I feel so bad for my poor teacher who has to force me to relearn all the techniques I mangled from YouTube haha.
Excellent suggestion. Very nice piece, easier than RDLA on the left hand, and less 2nd string tremolo.
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Re: What was your first tremolo piece?

Post by Smudger5150 » Fri Oct 20, 2017 3:32 pm

I have been trying all sorts of odd tremolo pieces but haven't really tried to play a piece properly yet - I'm still practising the technique.
But as 1st pieces, I'm looking at the following that have been recommended in other threads:-
T Damas - El Tremolo (Boije 20654?)
Member Daniele Magli's pieces Sea of Tranquility and Miles away
Duncan Kennedy's Reflections
I'm actually going through UK grade 6 pieces and saw that there was a Tarrega piece called 'Sueno' (an alternative to Recuerdos!). I thought it was the tremolo piece and started practising that only to realise later that the 'Sueno' piece for grade 6 was a different one - a mazurka piece! i.e. there are a few different pieces called Sueno!!
But I might continue with the Tarrega Tremolo Sueno along with the others I've mentioned before looking at Recuerdos and the other 'concert' pieces.

NB:- I'm also looking at Vladimor Bobri's complete study of tremolo book which has lots of exercises in it and a variety of etudes/excerpts from all the usual composers - Sor, Tarrega, Carcassi, Giuliani and others.
I guess I want to get a rock-solid base before I attack the bigger pieces.
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Re: What was your first tremolo piece?

Post by Smudger5150 » Fri Oct 20, 2017 4:01 pm

Smudger5150 wrote:
Fri Oct 20, 2017 3:32 pm
I have been trying all sorts of odd tremolo pieces but haven't really tried to play a piece properly yet - I'm still practising the technique.
But as 1st pieces, I'm looking at the following that have been recommended in other threads:-
T Damas - El Tremolo (Boije 20654?)
Member Daniele Magli's pieces Sea of Tranquility and Miles away
Duncan Kennedy's Reflections
I'm actually going through UK grade 6 pieces and saw that there was a Tarrega piece called 'Sueno' (an alternative to Recuerdos!). I thought it was the tremolo piece and started practising that only to realise later that the 'Sueno' piece for grade 6 was a different one - a mazurka piece! i.e. there are a few different pieces called Sueno!!
But I might continue with the Tarrega Tremolo Sueno along with the others I've mentioned before looking at Recuerdos and the other 'concert' pieces.

NB:- I'm also looking at Vladimor Bobri's complete study of tremolo book which has lots of exercises in it and a variety of etudes/excerpts from all the usual composers - Sor, Tarrega, Carcassi, Giuliani and others.
I guess I want to get a rock-solid base before I attack the bigger pieces.
But if you want an answer to the title of your post, it will be - whichever I learn to play 1st from the above list!
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