Left hand 4th finger

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kirolak
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Left hand 4th finger

Post by kirolak » Sun Mar 12, 2017 9:50 am

Lately I've found that the left hand menique (no tilde on my pc) is stiff & clicks, even gets stuck & won't move, in chords where the 3rd finger is on the g fret on the low E, & the menique is also required on the g on the high e string. Never had this problem before :( & all my forcing attempts result in a cramp up from the finger right up into the arm.

Would there be an easy way to solve this, please?

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Re: Left hand 4th finger

Post by Salvador » Sun Mar 12, 2017 11:27 am

For me only, i cannot say this works for others, and i am not a teacher or expert. What i do with dealing those difficult chords like open G chord is i do stretching exercises. I do chords like similar to Agustin Barrios' chords. Also the 2nd part of Romance de Amor, there's some chords there that stretches your fingers.

I don't do the tutorials exercises on youtube when they do it without the guitar. I tried that and got pain in my left arm and cramps so i think that's dangerous. So i always stretch with the guitar and do some chords, slur exercises for the 3rd and 4th fingers, and spider scales or whatever it is called lol.

This works for me so i can't say it would work for others.

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Re: Left hand 4th finger

Post by joachim33 » Sun Mar 12, 2017 11:40 am

I am wondering whether you should see a medical professional about this. Sorry to be so blunt.

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Re: Left hand 4th finger

Post by bear » Sun Mar 12, 2017 12:33 pm

joachim33 wrote:I am wondering whether you should see a medical professional about this. Sorry to be so blunt.
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Re: Left hand 4th finger

Post by Brynmor » Sun Mar 12, 2017 3:58 pm

Forcing the finger may do more harm than good and could even result in permanent damage. I think you need to consult a music injury professional immediately. Have you perhaps been over-practising and straining the finger?

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Re: Left hand 4th finger

Post by kirolak » Mon Mar 13, 2017 1:43 pm

:( sounds rather dire, but thank you for the replies. . . I don't think there is any such animal as a music injury professional in this part of the world, though. . .

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Re: Left hand 4th finger

Post by bear » Mon Mar 13, 2017 1:51 pm

kirolak wrote::( sounds rather dire, but thank you for the replies. . . I don't think there is any such animal as a music injury professional in this part of the world, though. . .
Orthopedic physician that specializes in hands.
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Re: Left hand 4th finger

Post by georgemarousi » Mon Mar 13, 2017 3:24 pm

I would also agree that you could consult a professional doctor..

My guess would be that somehow you have probably missed some of the basics "rules" of not getting injuries from your play. One of them is proper warmup, some stretches, frequent brakes etc.. could you spot a possible don't do of these that may caused your problem, to may help us/you also ?

Finally, as I have also been trying for a long time to get good advice on good warm-up, practices, exercises etc, asking teachers asking around, asking the forum too, I believe I have found the best practices all-together in the video-series of this g-r-e-a-t guy about learing the cello !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eySmCWYBlnU

I believe it worths to watch them all and mind all his warm-up / practice directions - good habits (yes they all apply to the guitar too! ) in order to be in a good progress-path and avoid possible future-injuries :)
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Re: Left hand 4th finger

Post by Jeff Whitney » Mon Mar 13, 2017 4:22 pm

Had the same problem with the middle finger on my left hand. The common term is "trigger-finger".
My orthopedic surgeon described it this way: There is a tendon that runs through a sheaf, the sheaf can become restricted through injury, infection etc.

I had mine surgically repaired, basically just opened the sheaf to relieve the restriction. Out patient surgery, although you are put under a light anesthetic, and back to playing the guitar in two weeks.

My two cents.

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Re: Left hand 4th finger

Post by MikeJay » Tue Mar 14, 2017 2:31 pm

Sounds like trigger finger to me too. I had a similar although less severe problem with my left index finger. After making a concerted effort to use less pressure on the fingerboard, it went away by itself.

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Re: Left hand 4th finger

Post by kirolak » Fri Mar 17, 2017 3:02 pm

Thank you, everyone! :)

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