Hello, thanks for the info, being a guitar player it didn't take long to work out the basic method as to where these notes are played on the fingerboard in the open position, my aim isn't to sight read, but merely use the plethora of music available as a "material to learn" I dabbled in time signatures but they aren't that important just right now since it isn't my intention to sight read anyway, perhaps later on.Luuttuaja wrote:I guess most CG method books start with introducing open strings (EADGBE) on staff notation. When you learn them (and it might take some time!) you start doing open string excercises. They will give you some hints to learn the notes on the staff, such as "the notes between lines from bottom to top make FACE" and "the notes on the lines make EGBDF = Every Good Boy Does Fine" etc. Then you need to know that usually, there are two half-steps (half step meaning one fret) between the notes (such as C and D or A and B) but that E and F only have one half-step between them, and so do B and C. So, first fret on E string will be F, but the second fret on A string will be B and C is the third fret on A string. Then you will eventually learn the sharps and flats "between the letters" and the basic note values. I really would suggest getting a method book for all this. There are internet resources that I personally like, such as "Online Guitar Fretboard Trainer" and musictheory.net excercices. Good luck with learning the notes, it's not easy at first, but very rewarding eventually!
Ah yes I can see that the bass clef isn't used and I have crossed it out.Luuttuaja wrote:I don't think you need to worry about the bass clef yet. Guitar is actually notated an octave higher than what it sounds, which means there's normally only need for the treble clef. When you now know the notes on the staff and also know how to find them on fingerboard, I would suggest studying the note values and different basic rhythms. Perhaps playing some simple tunes in C major? I believe the next step then would be gradually learning the different keys, and by then then a picture having a "Circle of Fifths" hanging on your wall (or having it as a computer/smartphone background picture) could help to memorize the key signatures. But I guess you can start your sight reading by just playing simple tunes in C major / A minor. I also think any tutor book would help. There's a lot of material on this website, including the Julio Sagreras method book, which I've heard some people use as sight-reading excercises. Progressive Studies, op. 60 by Fernando Sor might also suit you, they also have some great musical value.
This is a bit hard to follow for a left-handed player. If you'd like to translate, that would be great, because I am interested in what you are saying, but I just thought I'd mention it since you teach. It's not hard for everyone to understand fretting hand, picking hand or some variation of that.KevinCollins wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2017 9:45 pmLearning the left hand (reading) while learning classical sound (right hand) is really, really hard. I teach reading using a pick first, and once the left hand is set and notes are learned, I add the right hand.
Keep in mind that "classical", the nylon-string guitar, is a different instrument completely from the steel or electric. It has 12 frets clear of the body and rests on the left leg, so that the right hand falls at the back of the soundhole. The steel/electric is played off the right hip and has 14 frets clear of the body so that, you guessed it, the right hand falls at the back of the soundhole.
Playing the classical off the right hip like a steel forces the right hand thumb inside, under the fingers, called "thumb-under". Classical, on the left leg, puts the thumb out front, so the fingers can follow through without hitting the thumb. I guess you would call this "thumb over". That's the difference.
But, for reading, play single note melodies (any guitar method will do), and learn your right hand default, i-m-i-m rest strokes, strict alternation. Practice 2x slow, 1x fast. Good luck.
rogarc wrote: ↑Tue May 02, 2017 12:39 am… the basic way to learn to read music is like learning to read words. First you are taught what the letters are and sound like. That is learning the note length and value on the staff. Then you learn the exceptions or weird punctuation; like learning ornamentation with slurs and bends. …There is no shortcut I am aware of.
The above advice is superb. I will just add the the correct order of learning the Sor studies is Op 44, Op 60 (beginners), Op 35, 31 (early intermediate), Op 6 (advanced intermediate), Op 29 (very advanced). There is a group on this forum now learning Op 60 together, and helping each other.BellyDoc wrote: ↑Tue May 02, 2017 12:43 amI highly recommend getting a copy of Sor's studies. … Sor's studies are incrementally challenging, and musically beautiful. … Sor's studies are works of simple genius because they are beautiful and POSSIBLE at all levels of study when taken incrementally. Each study seems to feature one or several central teaching points, which are echoed and built on in later pieces.
There is literally never a dull moment.
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