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Re: Quick Poll, thanks in advance.

Post by kmurdick » Tue Aug 22, 2017 8:21 pm

lagarija, my fingers naturally go to mid-range, but I know what you are getting at. I think maybe my tight i and m middle joints might be a symptom of some lager problem. Treating the symptoms might do no good at all.

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Re: Quick Poll, thanks in advance.

Post by SteveL123 » Tue Aug 22, 2017 11:09 pm

kmurdick wrote:
Tue Aug 22, 2017 6:03 pm
Steve123, I mean resistance at the middle joint.
You said: "grab the middle joint segment of the 'i' finger with the left hand and slowly move it back and forth."

Following the above, I used my left index and thumb to grab the right hand index finger's middle joint, then used my left hand to move the right hand's index finger back and forth. The right hand's index finger was moving and hinging on the knuckle joint. Is that what you wanted?

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Re: Quick Poll, thanks in advance.

Post by lagartija » Tue Aug 22, 2017 11:33 pm

kmurdick wrote:
Tue Aug 22, 2017 8:21 pm
lagarija, my fingers naturally go to mid-range, but I know what you are getting at. I think maybe my tight i and m middle joints might be a symptom of some lager problem. Treating the symptoms might do no good at all.
Yes, I understand... but did you find the release of one direction easier than the other? Or was it the same for extension and flexion?
This is not treatment, it is mindful exploration of sensation and how fast and completely you release tension.
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Re: Quick Poll, thanks in advance.

Post by kmurdick » Wed Aug 23, 2017 12:26 am

SteveL123 wrote:
Tue Aug 22, 2017 11:09 pm
kmurdick wrote:
Tue Aug 22, 2017 6:03 pm
Steve123, I mean resistance at the middle joint.
You said: "grab the middle joint segment of the 'i' finger with the left hand and slowly move it back and forth."

Following the above, I used my left index and thumb to grab the right hand index finger's middle joint, then used my left hand to move the right hand's index finger back and forth. The right hand's index finger was moving and hinging on the knuckle joint. Is that what you wanted?
Yes.

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Re: Quick Poll, thanks in advance.

Post by kmurdick » Wed Aug 23, 2017 12:27 am

lagartija wrote:
Tue Aug 22, 2017 11:33 pm
kmurdick wrote:
Tue Aug 22, 2017 8:21 pm
lagarija, my fingers naturally go to mid-range, but I know what you are getting at. I think maybe my tight i and m middle joints might be a symptom of some lager problem. Treating the symptoms might do no good at all.
Yes, I understand... but did you find the release of one direction easier than the other? Or was it the same for extension and flexion?
This is not treatment, it is mindful exploration of sensation and how fast and completely you release tension.
It's the same either way.

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Re: Quick Poll, thanks in advance.

Post by SteveL123 » Wed Aug 23, 2017 2:06 am

kmurdick wrote:
Wed Aug 23, 2017 12:26 am
SteveL123 wrote:
Tue Aug 22, 2017 11:09 pm
kmurdick wrote:
Tue Aug 22, 2017 6:03 pm
Steve123, I mean resistance at the middle joint.
You said: "grab the middle joint segment of the 'i' finger with the left hand and slowly move it back and forth."

Following the above, I used my left index and thumb to grab the right hand index finger's middle joint, then used my left hand to move the right hand's index finger back and forth. The right hand's index finger was moving and hinging on the knuckle joint. Is that what you wanted?
Yes.
Then I don't understand why you said "I mean resistance at the middle joint."
The resistance I felt was from the knuckle joint, the hinge of the movement.

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Re: Quick Poll, thanks in advance.

Post by Steve Ganz » Wed Aug 23, 2017 5:12 pm

No diff.
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Re: Quick Poll, thanks in advance.

Post by kmurdick » Wed Aug 23, 2017 6:18 pm

Steve123, I meant hinging on the middle joint, not the knuckle joint. I fine the movement from the knuckle joint to be the same on all fingers on both hands.

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Re: Quick Poll, thanks in advance.

Post by SteveL123 » Wed Aug 23, 2017 6:38 pm

Maybe I have the joints mixed up. From the finger tip, first joint I call the tip joint, then middle joint, then knuckle joint. If I grab the middle joint and move it, it is hinging on the knuckle joint, not the middle joint?

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