Can You Play a Simple Song?

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Re: Can You Play a Simple Song?

Post by ameriken » Thu Dec 07, 2017 10:53 pm

Rognvald wrote:
Tue Nov 07, 2017 12:37 am
The problem for the serious student is that he reaches a level of technical competency to "finger" through pieces but, sadly, discovers he can't play a simple song well.


I'm coming off about a 12 year hiatus from playing. I used to be a relatively decent guitarist (far from expert of course) who could get through some moderately tough pieces, but now I feel like...well to say it plainly, I suck. I've been trying to jump back into some of that good ol' stuff like Asturias and Capricho Arabe and it's not working. I can kinda get through them but they sound pretty bad overall with buzzes squeaks, mistakes, poor right hand technique, poor speed and clarity, etc and so on.

So rather than trying to jump back into those pieces I played before, I'm going back to some simpler tunes and exercises and relearn how to play them well before I spend too much time trying to reconquer the tougher ones.

This thread has been the impetus for that.

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Re: Can You Play a Simple Song?

Post by tsulej » Fri Dec 08, 2017 9:45 pm

I have exactly the same situation as ameriken. After 25 years hiatus. I can play pieces I played before. But when I went for my first lesson this week, teacher smiled and gave basic stuff to master them first (like Sor 60 no. 1 or 2). So I almost start from the scratch. And it's good :)
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Re: Can You Play a Simple Song?

Post by PeteJ » Sat Dec 09, 2017 10:23 am

All the good players I've known regularly go back and start again.

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Re: Can You Play a Simple Song?

Post by Rognvald » Sat Dec 09, 2017 9:19 pm

If a teacher feels a student is wasting his time, than he's a lousy teacher, and he's the one who's wasting his students time. If I had a teacher tell me that, I'd knock his f***ing teeth out.
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Re: Can You Play a Simple Song?

Post by soltirefa » Sat Dec 09, 2017 9:28 pm

No one can say it better than MB!
I expected MB to be Manuel Barrueco.

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Re: Can You Play a Simple Song?

Post by ronjazz » Sun Dec 10, 2017 11:48 pm

But "Wind Beneath My Wings" is a simple, if somewhat endless, song, and I would play in a restaurant, that's what it's for, anyway. I love playing songs I've heard but never played, it's such a fun puzzle; first, to see if you can remember if it has a bridge or not, 2nd to find a key that works, 3rd to play the melody as accurately as you can remember. If you can perform a reasonably musical version of a song you've never played before, you've become one with the instrument and the music. Conversely, if you can make your classical repertoire sound like you're inventing it, like Bream did, or Marcel Dylla often does, like Leo Brouwer did when he was active, it's only because you know it so well.
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Re: Can You Play a Simple Song?

Post by davekear » Mon Dec 11, 2017 12:00 am

I have over 50 hours of memorized repertoire. I play every Beatles song ever written. As well as Sinatra, Stevie Wonder, much of Motown, lots of folk, Neil Young, tunes from the 20's, 30's 40's etc. Lots of Bach, and much of the traditional classical guitar repertoire. And lots of other stuff.
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There's only two songs I refuse to play; "Feelings" and "Wind beneath my wings".
Well that's not totally true; I'll sell out at a price. Give me a big enough tip and I'll play anything. :D

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Re: Can You Play a Simple Song?

Post by lagartija » Mon Dec 11, 2017 1:19 am

I actually like Wind Beneath My Wings...it was a symbolic song for my parents. My father was a very successful executive and when he retired to care for my mother because she had terminal lung cancer, he told everyone at that retirement party that he was successful because of her support and it was because she was the wind beneath his wings. The Eagle was the symbol of this aerospace company and he had spent his entire career there...starting out as a test engineer and advancing to the highest levels.
When I hear that song, I think of them both...both now gone for more than a decade.
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Re: Can You Play a Simple Song?

Post by davekear » Mon Dec 11, 2017 1:39 am

lagartija wrote:
Mon Dec 11, 2017 1:19 am

How much of a tip does it take, Dave? Name your price.
:-)
$100.00 will do it :D I'll even sing it for you.

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Re: Can You Play a Simple Song?

Post by lagartija » Mon Dec 11, 2017 2:24 am

:lol:
davekear wrote:
Mon Dec 11, 2017 1:39 am
lagartija wrote:
Mon Dec 11, 2017 1:19 am

How much of a tip does it take, Dave? Name your price.
:-)
$100.00 will do it :D I'll even sing it for you.
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Re: Can You Play a Simple Song?

Post by henders » Sun Dec 17, 2017 1:17 am

soltirefa wrote:
Sat Dec 09, 2017 9:28 pm
No one can say it better than MB!
I expected MB to be Manuel Barrueco.
Milton Berle? Molly Brown? Mrs. Butterworth?

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Re: Can You Play a Simple Song?

Post by Jeffrey Armbruster » Sun Dec 17, 2017 1:46 am

Mrs. Butterworth has a syruptitious side gig as a guitarist.
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