Playing off the right side of the right hand fingers?

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Playing off the right side of the right hand fingers?

Post by Robbie Flamerock » Wed Apr 22, 2015 9:47 pm

Has anybody tried this? I had always been taught to play off the left side, but have always felt a terrible amount of coordination difficulty and tension. I always found block chords very tough to pull off, while everyone else seemed to find it easy. When I play off the right side of the fingers the coordination problem disappeared! It requires bringing the neck pretty high, but it looks like it would be worth it. The amount of speed I have access to is remarkable. I was even able to do tremolo better than ever.

It reminds me of the fact that some hands can go fast with Pima and others find it easier with Pami. Perhaps it is the same with the rotation of the forearm. For some players turning to the right helps, for others to the left.....

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Re: Playing off the right side of the right hand fingers?

Post by Kent » Wed Apr 22, 2015 9:53 pm

Many professionals have played with the right side of their nails. The most prominent being Ida Presti.
Go for it.

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Re: Playing off the right side of the right hand fingers?

Post by bear » Wed Apr 22, 2015 11:13 pm

I play just right of center.
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Re: Playing off the right side of the right hand fingers?

Post by Bluemingo » Wed Apr 22, 2015 11:34 pm

Well, I play i,m on the left, and a on the right.

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Re: Playing off the right side of the right hand fingers?

Post by Robbie Flamerock » Thu Apr 23, 2015 12:09 am

I'm wondering if my neck will survive looking up at the guitar neck?

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Re: Playing off the right side of the right hand fingers?

Post by Robbie Flamerock » Thu Apr 23, 2015 12:58 am

Bluemingo wrote:Well, I play i,m on the left, and a on the right.
How would you do that?

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Post by Bluemingo » Thu Apr 23, 2015 2:58 am

Robbie Flamerock wrote:
Bluemingo wrote:Well, I play i,m on the left, and a on the right.
How would you do that?
It works because my fingers are almost perpendicular to the strings. I was just experimenting this method. Before I was using left side on all my fingers, but that always feels a little awkward: when I place "a" finger properly, i.e. touching the string on the left side of nail, my "i" will be angled too much so that it doesn't "grab" the string well.

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Post by JohnNguyen » Thu Apr 23, 2015 4:17 am

Bluemingo wrote:Well, I play i,m on the left, and a on the right.
I'm doing the same. My A finger twisted a little to the right, and as a result I slightly ramp my I & M fingernails to the right and A fingernail to the left.

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Post by bear » Thu Apr 23, 2015 5:22 pm

Robbie Flamerock wrote:I'm wondering if my neck will survive looking up at the guitar neck?
I don't watch my hands, if I take my eyes off the music, I get lost.
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Re: Playing off the right side of the right hand fingers?

Post by razz » Thu Apr 23, 2015 6:25 pm

I have not tried it. If you are getting the sound that you want and you can move your fingers to hit the notes, use the right side of your fingers.

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Post by Robbie Flamerock » Thu Apr 23, 2015 6:50 pm

bear wrote:
Robbie Flamerock wrote:I'm wondering if my neck will survive looking up at the guitar neck?
I don't watch my hands, if I take my eyes off the music, I get lost.
I memorize everything. The problem is, the neck has to tilt WAY UP to get this positioning.
I twisted my i finger over thirty years ago and it won't release when I play off the "normal position". I'll tinker a bit. It works really well otherwise.

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Re: Playing off the right side of the right hand fingers?

Post by mike.janel » Fri Apr 24, 2015 7:59 am

Robbie Flamerock wrote:The problem is, the neck has to tilt WAY UP to get this positioning.
I twisted my i finger over thirty years ago and it won't release when I play off the "normal position". I'll tinker a bit. It works really well otherwise.
You can try it the other way round.
Hold the guitar flamenco style, on the right leg with the neck level to the ground or a bit tilted down.
This position works very well with RH using the right side fingers. The only disadvantag I found was that the left hand needs to adjust a lot and it does not "look classical".
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Re: Playing off the right side of the right hand fingers?

Post by keithwwk » Mon Apr 27, 2015 1:35 am

Robbie Flamerock wrote:I'm wondering if my neck will survive looking up at the guitar neck?
I am not sure other, for me, this way do hurt my neck and accelerated my shoulder and neck pain issue. But I still have to look at the neck but try to control do it much lesser.
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Re: Playing off the right side of the right hand fingers?

Post by hugtsu » Sun May 03, 2015 3:37 pm

Playing on the right side of the nails is very popular in France because of the Alexandre Lagoya's class in Paris (between 64 and 94)
When i started learning the guitar i played on the right side. At the conservatory, my ex teacher (ex Lagoya's student) told me it was the way to play the guitar, so i practiced as he told me. It can be a very effective position if you are comfortable playing with, especially for arpeggios and scales.
I Recently learned to play on the left side and improved so much in this position, but everybody is different.

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Re: Playing off the right side of the right hand fingers?

Post by Moje » Sun May 03, 2015 5:44 pm

I played on the right side for about a year but teachers can be so conservative, it seemed like any problem I had got attributed to using this different technique. Then I learned Lagoya was just as dogmatic or more so, about right-side playing.

I liked it but eventually I went back to left-side, on the whole it works better for me, but if you find right-side works better for your hands and technique I'd just go for it.
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