Radiating pain at elbow & forearm

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Radiating pain at elbow & forearm

Post by Clovingo » Wed Jan 11, 2017 7:44 pm

Maybe this question has been ask already. I developed pain radiating from my elbow up to the middle of my forearm. Just started back playing classical guitar back in Sept (2016), after taking years (5 yrs) of not playing. I consider myself a beginner/intermediate player. I play around 2 hours on weekdays and sometime 4 to 6 on weekends. My problem is I cant stop picking up the guitar and I think I should take a break. Should I go see a doctor for something minor like this? Any advice on how to alleviate the pain would be appreciated. Thank you.

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Re: Radiating paint at elbow & forearm

Post by Big bird » Wed Jan 11, 2017 9:32 pm

Well is it Paint or Pain? Mineral spirits works for one and Bourbon will work for the other?

Seriously, have you tried some over the counter anti-inflammatory like Motrin or Aleve? I would try that first and shorting your practice times and maybe skipping a day here and there. If it improves, probably too much playing. If it doesn't, then a Doctor visit would probably be in order. I hope it clears up on its own for you....
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Re: Radiating paint at elbow & forearm

Post by chiral3 » Wed Jan 11, 2017 10:44 pm

These are always fun. Which arm (plucking or fretting)? What part of the forearm? Does it extend tot he fingers?

In the absence of this information I'll go out on a limb and make a guess that it's the the plucking arm. I believe the least understood and most prevalent issue for CGs stems from tension in the playing arm and pressure from the edge of the guitar against the forearm just south of the elbow. This will affect the ulnar nerve, which starts at the spine, makes up the medial brachial plexus, runs down the arm, through the elbow, and into your pinky, ring, and side of middle fingers. Tension and pressure can cause pain in the "funny bone" and into the forearm. Rest, perfecting a relaxed technique and, as BB says, bourbon will alleviate. Pick bourbon OR the NSAIDs as they're both crappy for your liver and kidneys. Google "nerve glides". Avoid bench pressing and push ups.
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Re: Radiating pain at elbow & forearm

Post by Clovingo » Wed Jan 11, 2017 10:46 pm

I meant pain. LOL.

Its my fretting arm. Maybe Im applying too much pressure on the fret board.

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Re: Radiating paint at elbow & forearm

Post by chiral3 » Wed Jan 11, 2017 11:18 pm

Occam's razor would suggest fret death grip. Practice applying only enough pressure to make the note sound right.
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Re: Radiating paint at elbow & forearm

Post by tgwilt » Thu Jan 12, 2017 1:35 am

You may consider seeing a doctor. I had this happen and it was tendonitis, fixed by a cortisone shot in the elbow.
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Re: Radiating paint at elbow & forearm

Post by a human » Thu Jan 12, 2017 2:12 am

If you lift something such as a small big of groceries, does it hurt? Or if you shake hands do you feel it? It may be "tennis" elbow. You should check in with you doctor/orthopedist for a proper diagnosis. But, to start, he will suggest a course of antiinflammatories, rest and icing. If that doesn't help, he may suggest a cortisone shot and rest and ice. Then slow resumption of activities. Ignoring it usually doesn't work.
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Re: Radiating pain at elbow & forearm

Post by Clovingo » Thu Jan 12, 2017 2:06 pm

Thank you all for your advice. I have to say, just making a fist and lifting very light stuff (such as grocery bags) irritates my arm/elbow. I don't like taking meds, I'll lay off the guitar for a day or two and see what happens.

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Re: Radiating pain at elbow & forearm

Post by uptempo » Thu Jan 12, 2017 7:28 pm

Sounds like golfers or tennis elbow and after a very long and costly process of trying to get a diagnosis myself I have today been diagnosed with this. Golfers elbow.

Pain on inside elbow
Pain in hand
Weak grip

It can also mimic ulnar nerve problems and in my case I have very tight flexoe muscles.

Go and see a specialist at once and get treatment.
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