Which way of support do you prefer?

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Re: Which way of support do you prefer?

Post by Paul Janssen » Wed Jan 04, 2017 1:04 pm

I have severe scoliosis (curvature of the spine) and was finding the foot rest caused great pain in my lower back. I have been using the De Oro Classica for the last couple of years and no longer experience this back pain. The De Oro Classica works very well for me. I use it in conjunction with the De Oro FiniSHIELD thin film sheets and have not had any issues with marking the guitar or losing suction on the guitar support. Diego De Oro (the owner and founder) is a really nice guy too and gives great customer support.

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Re: Which way of support do you prefer?

Post by dory » Wed Jan 04, 2017 7:08 pm

I love, love love the Barnett support. I was having bad hip pain with the footstool, and the Dynarette is just too small and feels unstable. I hated the idea of suction cups on my guitar-- even my old crappy one. I also hated seeing people lick their suction cups. That is, I don't mind it for their guitars but wouldn't want to do it on mine. The Barnett support was a life-changing discovery.
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Re: Which way of support do you prefer?

Post by Dirck Nagy » Wed Jan 04, 2017 7:45 pm

I recently tried a Dynarette for a couple months to give it an honest shot. It was OK i suppose, but for me a little too low.

I was surprised to find out how much i move around when i play...this became apparent when using the cushion.

I decided to go back to the footstool because:
  • i like a higher position than the cushion gives me
  • there ARE times when i use a little body movement to facilitate things such as big shifts from a low to a high position, etc. The cushion interferes with that.
  • a folding footstool is more portable
I use a Konig & Meyer footstool because of the sturdiness, but have a problem with the severe foot angle.

My favorite footstool is homemade from 2 4x4's bolted together. I put some rubber on the bottom so it wouldnt slide across wood floors. Not very portable, though.
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Re: Which way of support do you prefer?

Post by Jon Griffiths » Wed Jan 04, 2017 11:10 pm

I use a gitano guitar support . I started with a foot stool but after a few hours practice my back was shot so went too the cusion (found it to unstable and slippy), then to the big ergoplay , while this is a good solid rest and I did use for a few years I had to take of guitar to put on stand and in box . The guitano rest folds back and goes in the case perfect and is solid to use as well, now there is a cheap version of it knocking about for like £3.50 I tried it and it sucks, or not as the case may be..

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Re: Which way of support do you prefer?

Post by montana » Thu Jan 05, 2017 4:50 am

bear wrote:foot stool.png

The most comfortable so far. It folds and can fit into a briefcase. wwalmart sells them.
Never seen one at walmart. What dept. Sells them?

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Re: Which way of support do you prefer?

Post by rojarosguitar » Thu Jan 05, 2017 5:44 am

Whichever one but not a foot stool of any kind. It's just uncomfortable on the back/hip joint.

I use Barnett for playing on the left leg and Gitano for playing on the right leg, depending on what I play.
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Re: Which way of support do you prefer?

Post by bear » Thu Jan 05, 2017 3:15 pm

montana wrote:
bear wrote:foot stool.png

The most comfortable so far. It folds and can fit into a briefcase. wwalmart sells them.
Never seen one at walmart. What dept. Sells them?
I'll PM you the link in case it gets 86'd.
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Re: Which way of support do you prefer?

Post by keithwwk » Mon Jan 09, 2017 5:37 am

I am using Barnett Umbra std support. Firm and Steady. After few months of usage, I never worried it at all. I still haven't tape the inner magnet till date because I got only one guitar to practice so it is attached 24/7. Very strong and secure. Nice toy!
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Re: Which way of support do you prefer?

Post by tormodg » Mon Jan 09, 2017 7:49 am

I have used the Barnett support on my main guitar for a long time now and I'm extremely happy with it. On my beater I use a 30 year old a-frame which is okay but more wobbly. It's surprisingly durable though.
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Re: Which way of support do you prefer?

Post by JCB » Mon Jun 12, 2017 10:28 pm

Question for the group. I have a Kris Barnett support which I have used for a few months. I love the magnet system for stability. But I cannot get the guitar as low between my legs, and the body as centered to my torso, as I would like. It seems to place the body & neck uncomfortably far to the left - i.e. I have to "reach" a bit and my shoulder gets fatigued. I'm considering the Gitano, DeOro, and Ergoplay. Are these better suited to the kind of positioning I'm looking for? (One downside of the Kris Barnett is that installing the internal magnets is a bit of a project, and it's difficult to remove them - so it's not possible to do any experimenting with where to locate them.)

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Re: Which way of support do you prefer?

Post by JCB » Mon Jun 12, 2017 10:28 pm

Question for the group. I have a Kris Barnett support which I have used for a few months. I love the magnet system for stability. But I cannot get the guitar as low between my legs, and the body as centered to my torso, as I would like. It seems to place the body & neck uncomfortably far to the left - i.e. I have to "reach" a bit and my shoulder gets fatigued. I'm considering the Gitano, DeOro, and Ergoplay. Are these better suited to the kind of positioning I'm looking for? (One downside of the Kris Barnett is that installing the internal magnets is a bit of a project, and it's difficult to remove them - so it's not possible to do any experimenting with where to locate them.)

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Re: Which way of support do you prefer?

Post by Jeffrey Armbruster » Mon Jun 12, 2017 10:31 pm

Check out the Guitarlift thread nearby. I'm really happy with it.
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Re: Which way of support do you prefer?

Post by astro64 » Mon Jun 12, 2017 11:44 pm

JCB wrote:
Mon Jun 12, 2017 10:28 pm
Question for the group. I have a Kris Barnett support which I have used for a few months. I love the magnet system for stability. But I cannot get the guitar as low between my legs, and the body as centered to my torso, as I would like. It seems to place the body & neck uncomfortably far to the left - i.e. I have to "reach" a bit and my shoulder gets fatigued. I'm considering the Gitano, DeOro, and Ergoplay. Are these better suited to the kind of positioning I'm looking for? (One downside of the Kris Barnett is that installing the internal magnets is a bit of a project, and it's difficult to remove them - so it's not possible to do any experimenting with where to locate them.)
Are you sure this is a problem of the support, and not a consequence of wanting the guitar low? Unless you swing out your right leg you cannot have the guitar very low with any support or footstool, I think. Your thigh will always run into the guitar bout. The neck angle matters too, of course. And your height and chair.

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Re: Which way of support do you prefer?

Post by llch » Mon Jun 19, 2017 3:42 am

Question for those who uses an armrest - I realized that the rest itself tend to slip away, being too slippery to have much friction on my trousers/pants/shorts. Is this a typical issue? The contact surface uses a foam like material, but it doesn't seem to have much of a grip!

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