Bob, as you mentioned, Gallen's posture keeps left hand down at belly level rather than high at eye/shoulder level. I actually found it less tiring than having the left hand up there all the time. You may do a test: lift your left hand up to where you eye level is and keep it here for 2 minute. Quickly the arm exhausts. That's what happens to me in the classical posture.hesson11 wrote:Mr. Gallen's guitar certainly looks stable. One advantage to that posture would seem to be keeping the left hand close to the body so you don't have to reach out and up to the neck. I imagine this might help prevent shoulder problems while also reducing the angle at which you sometimes have to bend your left wrist to play. Not sure about what deleterious effects holding the right shoulder out and up might have, though.
One question: How long can you sit like that? When I try it, my right leg starts to hurt fairly quickly. It also tends to "go to sleep."
Same here. I play both steel and nylon instruments with a guitar support resting on my left leg in the "classical" position. At age 64 nothing else is possible without pain of some type.astro64 wrote:I am so used to the classical position that I quickly get pain in the right shoulder when trying to play with the guitar on the right leg.
I recommend you check Carlevaro's ideas on posture and you will see what's wrong with the positioning of the lower picture, and maybe find out the solution to your problem. Search youtube for Alfredo Escande's channel and his videos on posture from the Carlevaro's school.omlove wrote:Another thing I need to point out is in "neck low" position - I've played steel string for 10 years like that, left arm naturally reaches forward. While I first tried classical "neck up" position, left arm reaches backwards - which is uncomfortable. I found two images to illustrate this idea:
I agree on the internal movements and so on. But we also should becareful on considering posture by young talents. Gallen is ceratinly a great musician and guitarist. He also seems to do a lot of body workout, you can find a course by him on guitar and physiotherapy over the internet. Certainly a good body preparation is recquired to keep his posture for long periods. Let's see if he can keep playing like this at older age.Djibzs wrote:When we see people like Ricardo Gallen, it's imppossible to say that there is a really bad position.
According to my teacher (i think he is right on this point), the real problem is the perception of internal movements, and the consequence of useless tensions in the lumbar area, etc etc.
About the arms, consider that you can use different types of muscles to move your everything. Not only what seem to be obvious. It can be physically economic and give you unexpected moves. (take a look at a book wrote by Blandine Calais-Germain, "Anatomy for the movement").
I think it's interessant to consider the posture not from the guitare, but from the "deepest" parts of your muscles.
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