Back pain

Ergonomics and Posture for Classical Guitarists, Aches and Pains, Injuries, etc...
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AndreiKrylov
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Re: Back pain

Post by AndreiKrylov » Tue Oct 17, 2017 9:32 pm

znerken wrote:
Wed Sep 13, 2017 8:11 pm
Hey everyone. I was hoping I could get some tips. I am experiencing upper back pain, which I am not quite able to locate 100%. It hurts when I breath, and I can feel that the source of the pain is the guitar. As soon as I pick up the guitar, I noticing the pain gradually approaching. After a short while I have to put the guitar away, as the pain is too much. The pain is located on the right side, and I believe somewhere around the middle right side, almost as high as shoulders.

I have tried trigger points with a ball, foam rolling, stretches and sling training. I even tried a break longer than one week several times, one with NSAID. Nothing helps. What to do?

PS:

I will visit a PT tomorrow, perhaps he can say something, but I highly doubt it.

PSS: I play with my legs crossed, and the guitar on my right leg. However, I have tried playing with it on the left leg and with a footstool. Didn't help.
Please try to play with strap, standing. In free moving position . Try do not look on the neck\fretboard while playing. Exercise (with caution according to physician advice) go to yoga... if you are in the good shape - then stretch'lift yourself on a bar, do chinups etc.
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Re: Back pain

Post by manhhung » Wed Oct 18, 2017 1:43 am

Are you sure it is the guitar? May be see a doctor to make sure it is not your heart,lungs or spine. If it is the guitar, it is likely muscular. Try different postures, sitting positions, leg positions, change positions frequently. See PT to get exercises to strengthen those back muscles.

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Re: Back pain

Post by AndreiKrylov » Wed Oct 18, 2017 7:07 pm

manhhung wrote:
Wed Oct 18, 2017 1:43 am
Are you sure it is the guitar? May be see a doctor to make sure it is not your heart,lungs or spine. If it is the guitar, it is likely muscular. Try different postures, sitting positions, leg positions, change positions frequently. See PT to get exercises to strengthen those back muscles.
yes - guitar is very often a reason for back pain...
I had back pain too...but since I started (many years ago) to always play with strap - back pain never come back...
and I did and do exercise, chin-ups etc. :)
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Re: Back pain

Post by Michael L » Wed Oct 18, 2017 7:25 pm

A good physiotherapist will find the cause of the pain. Mine, following some treatment for my sciatica suggested I attend Pilates classes. I have found the exercises very helpful in strengthening my core muscles and the sciatica has not returned. You may find some helpful tutorials on Youtube but a class will be better initially. Here in the UK it is normal practice to check with a doctor before visiting a physiotherapist to rule out other medical causes. A general practice doctor shouldn't need to refer you to a specialist usually.

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Re: Back pain

Post by tcrist » Tue Nov 21, 2017 5:53 pm

You should video yourself and see if you are leaning a lot to the left. I imagine you're too focused on your left hand. Look up at the ceiling or out to the right more. More your body with the music and don't get "stuck" in one position. Definitely try a cushion support or something else to adjust your sitting position a little. Mostly, I would suggest "sitting as if you are standing." To do this, stand up and feel the natural position of balance that your body intuitively forms. Adjust your balance in every direction and feel that balance become disturbed. Find the center again. Then feel the weight of your upper body being transmitted into your legs to the floor. When you sit, imagine yourself still standing, but transmit the weight of your upper body not into your legs but through your sit bones into the chair. Imagine yourself still standing, with the same feeling of balance you had when standing.

Hope this helps.

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