Not sure what you're getting at here? Shouldn't I be enjoying that I now have a guitar where I can reach the notes I need to enjoy the music?Chimensch wrote: I doubt that the piano teacher who said she is buying a small-scale guitar is also planning on buying a small-scale piano.
I hope you don't mind me saying but a lot of that is just simply wrong. What you seem to be saying is that finger/hand size is completely irrelevant and providing you practice enough then that 7 fret stretch is within your capabilities.Chimensch wrote:A fascinating subject indeed, especially for the many approaches that different people have to solving problems. I also have very small hands. I asked my teacher if I would benefit from a smaller scale guitar but he put a quick end to the discussion by showing me that his hands are smaller than mine. I'm finishing my third year and we're getting into some fifth-year pieces. So far, I haven't encountered any problems that couldn't be solved by correctly positioning the thumb. Also, I'm not willing to close the door on the world of standard sized guitars. I find the idea of having an opportunity to play a really fine guitar and saying, "Oh, I can't play that one, it's too big" to be repugnant. Then, there was my Italian wife's comment that it was very "American" of me to immediately think of solving a problem by buying something. She has small hands and plays the organ and the question of buying an organ with a small-scale keyboard has never come up. And what would be the point? Organs are usually found in churches and you play the one that's there. I doubt that the piano teacher who said she is buying a small-scale guitar is also planning on buying a small-scale piano.
Alicia wrote:Not sure what you're getting at here? Shouldn't I be enjoying that I now have a guitar where I can reach the notes I need to enjoy the music?
Dear Michael N., I didn't saying anything that was "wrong" since I was simply explaining why I decided not to purchase a short-scale guitar, a decision that I am still happy with after 3 years. As for Alicia, it turns out that there are now short-scale pianos available, as explained in this video:Michael.N. wrote:I hope you don't mind me saying but a lot of that is just simply wrong.
The 4 fret stretch was beyond my capabilities (after 5 years of trying) until I bought a shorter guitar.... providing you practice enough then that 7 fret stretch is within your capabilities.
It's an absurd position to take.
ewokinco wrote:I am a novice at classical guitar, but a professional musician now older and disabled. So I have time to learn. I had a nice La Patrie Hybrid CW, but it was 650mm scale length and 52 mm sized nut. It was simply too large for my hand. My hand span is about 6.5 inches and my middle finger is only 3 inches long, with the other fingers being shorter.
I spent a lot of time agonizing about a smaller scale instrument. I checked out the Cordoba Dolce and Cadete. I looked and looked and looked. I finally bought two Kenny Hill New World Players, a 615 and a 628mm. I cannot tell you what a difference these make in terms of my being able to much more easily do certain things. It was the correct thing to do. I will never play on a concert stage again, but there is no reason for people to not make music and if a smaller instrument assists in doing this, then they should do it. The difficulty in my case is a sophisticated ear. So I cannot simply play an instrument just because it is smaller and more comfortable. It must also have a nice sound. The instruments I bought I am extremely pleased with and I would recommend anyone having hand issues to consider smaller scale instruments. There are a few more options if one can play a 640mm, but I would struggle. So though options are limited at 630, I still think there are some excellent choices available, several coming from the Hill company.
What is the instrument you upgraded to and what is the scale length?creamburmese wrote:I have a 7.5" span and knew from playing steel strings that I would do well to buy a short scale classical so I stared with the Kenny Hill P628 and it worked very well for me. It has a narrower nut in addition to the short scale though, and in some cases I actually prefer a slightly wider string spacing, my fingers not being all that delicate. So I recently upgraded to another guitar with a short scale but standard 52 mm nut...
Hand size - Guitar Scale lengthkechance wrote: The revised chart, using commonly available neck sizes and expressing scale length versus the thumb to pinky distance, would be as follows
Thumb tip to pinky tip span of 250+ 664mm scale length
Thumb tip to pinky tip span of 230 to 250 656mm scale length
Thumb tip to pinky tip span of 210 to 230 650mm scale length
Thumb tip to pinky tip span of 190 to 210 640mm scale length
Thumb tip to pinky tip span of 170 to 190 630mm scale length
Thumb tip to pinky tip span of below 170 615mm scale length
I hope that this information will be of use to people who are still looking for that guitar that fits their hands. Happy Playing!
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