Visée, Robert de - Suite in D - D06 [FAC]

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Visée, Robert de - Suite in D - D06 [FAC]

Post by Jean-François Delcamp » Wed Mar 30, 2011 7:26 am

Robert de Visée - Suite en RE - "Livre de Pièces pour la guittarre" (Paris 1686)

Facsimile :
de Visée Robert - Suite en re.pdf
In modern notation with fingering:
de_visee_suite8_paris_1686___2011-03-30.pdf
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Post by Bernhard Heimann » Wed Mar 30, 2011 8:09 am

Merci beaucoup, Jean-Francois for this enhanced edition.
I like this famous suite very much, and your elaborate fingering is extremely helpful.
My old Karl Scheit edition (much less fingering) doesn't contain all movements...


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Re: Visée, Robert de - Suite in D - D06 [FAC]

Post by Pepotte » Mon Aug 15, 2011 2:12 am

Excellent work Mr Delcamp. I remember learning to play Bourree many years ago, but I did not know it was part of a larger suite. I now have to correct my fingering, I think.
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Post by Evangelos Skropidas » Sat Sep 10, 2011 11:13 pm

Is this in standard tuning? I think someone mentioned it was a drop d tuning?

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Post by Jean-François Delcamp » Sun Sep 11, 2011 8:01 am

Skropi wrote:Is this in standard tuning?
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Post by Evangelos Skropidas » Tue Sep 13, 2011 10:46 am

Mr Delcamp,

I noticed in the bourree section some mistakes, I could be wrong as they are your interpretation probably, but compared to renditions watched from accomplished guitarists, they are most definitely different. Is it something that has been brought upon? I will find specifically the parts if required and needed.

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Re: Visée, Robert de - Suite in D - D06 [FAC]

Post by Tonyyyyy » Sat Sep 24, 2011 12:05 am

Evangelos Skropidas wrote:Mr Delcamp,
I noticed in the bourree section some mistakes, I could be wrong as they are your interpretation probably, but compared to renditions watched from accomplished guitarists, they are most definitely different. Is it something that has been brought upon? I will find specifically the parts if required and needed.
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Hi Evangelos, I understand what you are mean...

But baroque guitar is a significantly different instrument (I do have one :? ) If we try to play exactly from original tablature it sometimes is excellent sometimes not. I think M. Delcamp's version is close to the original.
Is this in standard tuning? I think someone mentioned it was a drop d tuning?
Baroque guitar is ADGBE, like strings 1- 5 of the classical but.......

We need to remember that BG is usually re-entrant ( the fourth and fifth pairs of strings can be an octave higher than we might expect :shock: so the bass notes may be on any one of 3 pairs of strings) I personally think with Visee only the fifth course should be higher - but others disagree.
Then ...on classical do we use our string 6 - bass string, which the BG does not have ? Maybe drop-D would be good for some baroque guitar pieces.

Also how much do we embellish / improvise around the notes?

Debate could take many lifetimes!

So you are correct that versions for classical are really very different.

I must compare the original and the transcription of to tell you my exact opinion. (It is late and I am tired so I will do it another day) But the Delcamp versions of early guitar and lute music that know seem fine to play on modern guitar and the original instrument

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Re: Visée, Robert de - Suite in D - D06 [FAC]

Post by Pepotte » Mon Mar 04, 2013 8:40 am

Thank you very much Mr Delcamp. I got the Paris version.
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Re: Visée, Robert de - Suite in D - D06 [FAC]

Post by Jean-François Delcamp » Sat Oct 31, 2015 11:02 am

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Post by kirolak » Sat Feb 20, 2016 4:51 pm

Fascinating, thank you!

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Re: Visée, Robert de - Suite in D - D06 [FAC]

Post by Benjamin » Tue May 24, 2016 4:52 am

Thank you. I've been looking for the complete suite for a little while. I've learned a couple of these from the Noad books, and I'm excited to do the whole thing now.

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Re: Visée, Robert de - Suite in D - D06 [FAC]

Post by segobreawill » Thu Jun 23, 2016 7:21 pm

Merci beaucoup M. Jean-Francois. C'est tres gentil de votre part. :)

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