Tárrega, Francisco - Prelude in E - Leckie Manuscript

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Tárrega, Francisco - Prelude in E - Leckie Manuscript

Postby RobMacKillop » Sat Oct 10, 2015 4:27 pm

One of Tárrega's wealthier students was one Walter Leckie. Tárrega wrote out by hand in two books many pieces, with every note fingered for both hands and strings. We will never get closer to the real Tárrega - no editors to get in between us and the maestro. This is my first recording from the Red Book. It's a VERY short Prelude in E, dated and signed by Tárrega as February 1900. For those of us who have played this beautiful choral-like piece before, the last few bars might come as a bit of a surprise, as they are quite unlike any published version I have seen.


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Re: Tárrega, Francisco - Prelude in E - Leckie Manuscript

Postby Schneider » Mon Oct 12, 2015 7:58 am

Very nice indeed Rob.
Thank you for sharing !
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Re: Tárrega, Francisco - Prelude in E - Leckie Manuscript

Postby TJ2 » Fri Nov 04, 2016 11:47 pm

Thanks Rob. Very enjoyable piece.

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Postby RobMacKillop » Fri Nov 04, 2016 11:56 pm

Thanks for the comments, Pierre and tj2!

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Re: Tárrega, Francisco - Prelude in E - Leckie Manuscript

Postby Jorge Oliveira » Sat Nov 05, 2016 12:22 am

Many thanks, Rob, a beautiful piece and a lovely sound you produce with your no-nails technique. I saw you on YouTube explaining the technique and saw you playing Adelita and Lágrima as well, both very enjoyable to listen to.

There is, then, your mention of Tárrega's hand written books (the Leckie manuscript) I had never heard of before. Do you know where can I obtain a copy?

Thanks in advance,

Jorge
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Postby RobMacKillop » Sat Nov 05, 2016 7:54 am

Jorge, I'm not allowed to give you a direct link, but you will find it on the website of The Classical Guitar Centre, Birmingham UK. Expensive, but really well done. Big, thick heavy book, all in Tárrega's own hand.

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Postby Jorge Oliveira » Sat Nov 05, 2016 8:26 am

Thanks, Rob, I'll have a look.
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Re: Tárrega, Francisco - Prelude in E - Leckie Manuscript

Postby Jorge Oliveira » Mon Nov 07, 2016 11:58 am

Hi Rob:

I've located Tárrega's book, thank you. An hefty price indeed... :cry:. I just have a few questions to help me make my mind:
  1. Does this publication includes the two handwritten books you referred to in your original post?
  2. And what type of binding it uses? Not rings, certainly, as it seems to be too thick for that... The thing I'm concerned most is whether it can be opened in a stand and stay open.
  3. Is is readable? I mean, Tárrega's handwriting is clear enough?
Once again, I would appreciate your help.

Best regards,

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Postby RobMacKillop » Mon Nov 07, 2016 12:50 pm

1. Yes, both handwritten books are included.
2. No rings. It is difficult to put on a stand - I use a table, and once photocopied a few pages from it to study on my stand.
3. Yes and no. His A above the treble clef often looks like a B. Plus, every single note has extra information - which string it is on and which left-hand finger is used. It is definitely cluttered.

The book is printed in colour, as Leckie wrote commentary throughout in red pen, which distinguishes his writing from Tárrega's. Though often those comments seem to have come from his lessons with Tárrega.

The repertoire contains a lot of long pieces, operatic arias and variations, which involve a lot of page turns. There are only a few short pieces. It's really a book for someone who really wants to study Tárrega's fingering closely, and spot (as I have done) some differences with published versions. I recommend it for serious study, but not for the general player looking for nice tunes to play.

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Postby Jorge Oliveira » Mon Nov 07, 2016 7:19 pm

RobMacKillop wrote: I recommend it for serious study, but not for the general player looking for nice tunes to play.

Many thanks for your useful comments, Rob. I've made my mind, definitely, this book is not for me, it would be an overkill. I could explore one piece here and there, but most of them would remain unplayed, I'm sure. But thanks again for taking up my questions.
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Postby RobMacKillop » Mon Nov 07, 2016 9:15 pm

No problem.

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Re: Tárrega, Francisco - Prelude in E - Leckie Manuscript

Postby Jorge Oliveira » Wed Nov 16, 2016 11:31 am

Hi Rob:

Sorry to bother you again, but there is a thread in Public Space called "Simple but Beautiful" where I posted (16-Nov-16) a small text on Francisco Tárrega's Una Lagrima calling the attention for the existence of a not well known part C. This statement is being, say, disputed, so I wonder if you would be kind enough to tell us, in the mentioned thread, if Una Lagrima appears in the Leckie Manuscript with only two parts, A and B, or with a third part, C, as well.

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Re: Tárrega, Francisco - Prelude in E - Leckie Manuscript

Postby Stephen Kenyon » Wed Nov 16, 2016 12:05 pm

Rob, I take it you are familiar with the colour facsimile of Lagrima (dated 1925) that's around, are you able to say whether that is in Tarrega's handwriting, and are the amendations to fingering in Leckie's?
Actually now I look at it the date is in the same writing so it can't be Tarrega's.
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Re: Tárrega, Francisco - Prelude in E - Leckie Manuscript

Postby RobMacKillop » Wed Nov 16, 2016 12:15 pm

Jorge, Lágrima does not appear in the book.

Stephen, I haven't seen the scan you talk about.

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Re: Tárrega, Francisco - Prelude in E - Leckie Manuscript

Postby Stephen Kenyon » Wed Nov 16, 2016 1:08 pm

RobMacKillop wrote:Jorge, Lágrima does not appear in the book.

Stephen, I haven't seen the scan you talk about.


When I looked at this book I was struck that effectively nothing I was interested in was present - none of the iconic Tarrega! This is not overly apparent from the adverts.

Here's the scan its on imslp ;
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