Sagreras_Las_Primeras_Lecciones for proof-readers

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Re: Sagreras_Las_Primeras_Lecciones for proof-readers

Postby Bernhard Heimann » Tue Oct 01, 2013 7:38 pm

Hi Stefan,

no need for excuses - I am sure that such things happen to everyone of us.
And it's always better pointing to a fault twice than overlooking it.

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Postby Stefan Srećković » Thu Oct 10, 2013 1:53 pm

A dilemma had been brought up recently, and I would like some justification from you Bernhard. The apoyando/accentuation sign used in Sagreras' books (^); does it explicitly call for a rest stroke, or generally speaking accentuation?
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Postby Bernhard Heimann » Thu Oct 10, 2013 3:54 pm

Hi Stefan,

thank you for your question.
I reply with Sagreras' own words:

Apoyando.jpg


If you don't read Spanish (in short, my own words):
The "^" is used for rest stroke (apoyando), the ">" for accentuation.
Could you please quote where the dilemma has been brought up?

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Postby Stefan Srećković » Thu Oct 10, 2013 4:25 pm

Snap. I've been playing free strokes mostly, thought that "^" is used for accentuation. Time to roll it back up.
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Re: Sagreras_Las_Primeras_Lecciones for proof-readers

Postby Bernhard Heimann » Fri Oct 11, 2013 8:16 am

Hi Stefan,

just one more remark concerning rest stroke / free stroke.
This topic has already caused lengthy discussions and there's no simple answer.
Just one example: Pujol (in his "Escuela razonada") uses rest stroke wherever possible,
some others (like Carlevaro) say rest stroke is not necessary at all and so on.
My personal impression: there was an era where rest stroke was overrated, and today we are back
to a moderate use of rest stroke.

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Re: Sagreras_Las_Primeras_Lecciones for proof-readers

Postby Stefan Srećković » Wed Nov 20, 2013 5:13 pm

#81

Bar 7

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Brown box calls for a B flat note. Green box says two notes should be played on the same string. Having consulted with a fellow forum member Marko, we both think that B in bar 7 is missing a natural accidental.

Additionally, how often are PDF files updated with these changes?
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Postby Bernhard Heimann » Thu Nov 21, 2013 4:27 pm

Thank you Stefan for your diligence.
You are right, the B needs a natural, which I had already added in the original
after the following message
http://www.classicalguitardelcamp.com/viewtopic.php?f=97&t=74702&start=15#p835936

I'll ask Prof. Delcamp about the update of the PDF file.
We have quite a few corrections now which would justify a new edition.

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Postby Stefan Srećković » Thu Nov 21, 2013 6:16 pm

Sorry I missed it. I just checked the first page (one with all the updates), realized it wasn't there so I made this post.
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Postby Bernhard Heimann » Thu Nov 21, 2013 7:34 pm

Hi Stefan,

no need to excuse. It's better to detect an error twice than not at all.

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Postby Stefan Srećković » Sat Dec 07, 2013 11:31 pm

#83

Pretty sure this blue note in measure 9 is also meant to be E (like the orange note).
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Re: Sagreras_Las_Primeras_Lecciones for proof-readers

Postby Bernhard Heimann » Sun Dec 08, 2013 9:38 am

Thank you, Stefan.
I guess you're right, too! The error will be corrected and I hope we have a new edition soo.

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Re: Sagreras_Las_Primeras_Lecciones for proof-readers

Postby D# minor » Mon Feb 10, 2014 12:19 pm

Question, don't know if it has been corrected, but here goes. has lesson 85 wrong keysignature?
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Re: Sagreras_Las_Primeras_Lecciones for proof-readers

Postby Bernhard Heimann » Mon Feb 10, 2014 4:32 pm

Hi!
Lesson 85 of "Las Primeras Lecciones" is in C major (facsimile and Delcamp edition), although there are some accidentals,
which give the piece a nice character.
What key signature did you think of?

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Re: Sagreras_Las_Primeras_Lecciones for proof-readers

Postby D# minor » Mon Feb 10, 2014 5:40 pm

I thougt it was in C that is why I It sounded strange to me playing F# and not F through the lesson. In the edition I downloaded It is in G and not C, but now I know. So thank you for the reply.

If you check I guess you will see that it's notated with # on the "F" line.... hope i'm not wrong

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Re: Sagreras_Las_Primeras_Lecciones for proof-readers

Postby Bernhard Heimann » Mon Feb 10, 2014 8:14 pm

Hi again!

Yes, you are partially right.
In the published version there's still the old mistake that has already been corrected, please see this post:
http://www.classicalguitardelcamp.com/viewtopic.php?f=97&t=74702&start=15#p827680

On the other hand, you should read the whole thread before reporting an error.

But you are right in another way: it's time for a new edition of book 1, where many corrections have been made now.
I'll ask Prof. Delcamp.

Thank you for your diligence - it's still better to report an error twice than not at all.

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