Sagreras_Las_Segundas_Lecciones for proof-readers

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Sagreras_Las_Segundas_Lecciones for proof-readers

Post by Bernhard Heimann » Wed Feb 06, 2013 8:26 pm

Here is the corrected version and the list of changes - due to its length not as a message text, but as attachment.

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Edit 1: (07/02/2013): Correction from Denis included.
Edit 2: (08/02/2013): 2nd correction from Denis included.
Edit 3: (10/02/2013): 3rd correction of Denis and 1st of Elias López cruz included.
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Re: Sagreras_Las_Segundas_Lecciones for proof-readers

Post by Denis Paradis » Thu Feb 07, 2013 2:01 am

Spotted an error while playing through.

Lesson 13 measure 7 & 8 the G in the base should be an E (The G is unplayable in measure 7 following the fingering in the copy)
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Post by Denis Paradis » Fri Feb 08, 2013 1:30 am

Two other mistakes spotted playing through today, I'm up to lesson 34, should finish sight reading tomorrow, or Saturday at the latest.

Lesson 19 second to last measure the sharp should be on the A instead of on the C.
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Lesson 28 this is in D major we're missing the C# at the staff.
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Post by Bernhard Heimann » Fri Feb 08, 2013 8:49 am

Thanks, Denis.
Your corrections have been included in V4.

@Jean-François Delcamp: Le numéro de la leçon 28 est un peu déplacé dans le fichier Finale.

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Post by Denis Paradis » Sat Feb 09, 2013 4:04 pm

Here are the last few mistakes I found.

Lesson 35 measure 7 first beat the B is played on 6th string not 4th.
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Lesson 39 first measure first beat, wrong left hand fingering on the A, should be 1 instead of 3.
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Lesson 43 third measure from the end first beat, there is a wrong sharp indication on the A, it should be natural.
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That's all I found playing through, back to my translation assignment :)
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Post by Elías López Cruz » Sat Feb 09, 2013 6:29 pm

Hi! In lesson 39, first measure, second and third beat are C# and E, NOT A and C# respectively as seen in the copy of Sagreras.
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Post by Denis Paradis » Sat Feb 09, 2013 7:24 pm

Elías López Cruz wrote:Hi! In lesson 39, first measure, second and third beat are C# and E, NOT A and C# respectively as seen in the copy of Sagreras.
So true hahaha! That's actually what I played noticed the fingering error but not the notes! :bravo:
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Post by Bernhard Heimann » Sun Feb 10, 2013 1:52 pm

Hi Elias & Denis,

thank you. Your corrections have been included in V5.

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Post by Jean-François Delcamp » Sat Mar 09, 2013 7:10 am

Lesson 12 first measure first beat, Andante was missing.
Lesson 38 first measure first beat, Andante was missing.
Lesson 39 first measure first beat, Tiempo de Zamba was missing.

corrections have been included in V7.
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Post by Kamehameha » Sat Mar 09, 2013 5:53 pm

First of all,
thanks to all the team for this huge work !

The french commentary is missing in the second book, 40th study.

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Post by Denis Paradis » Sat Mar 09, 2013 9:33 pm

Jean-François Delcamp wrote:Lesson 12 first measure first beat, Andante was missing.
Lesson 38 first measure first beat, Andante was missing.
Lesson 39 first measure first beat, Tiempo de Zamba was missing.

corrections have been included in V7.
Sorry I missed that one when I read through the first time.

Lesson 8 meas. 15 in the first beat there is a "G" indicated and it should be an "A".

* Also a 4 finger indication and a (2) string indication are missing for the "E".
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Re: Sagreras_Las_Segundas_Lecciones for proof-readers

Post by GeoffB » Sun Mar 10, 2013 1:09 am

Kamehameha wrote:First of all,
thanks to all the team for this huge work !

The french commentary is missing in the second book, 40th study.

:bye:
Hi Kamehameha, thank you for that and welcome to the forum. Could I invite you to introduce yourself here?

@Bernhard, as Kamehaha says, the French version for lesson 40 is missing, and I notice the Spanish version appears there twice, so maybe the wrong one was copied in.

I notice also in that lesson that the first letter of the English version (the "I" of "In") has been missed out in the copying process.

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Re: Sagreras_Las_Segundas_Lecciones for proof-readers

Post by Bernhard Heimann » Sun Mar 10, 2013 9:51 am

Hello Geoff,

the corrections will be made immediately;
I'll send the new version to Jean-François so he can decide when to publish it.

Greetings
Bernhard

Edit: new version mailed. (2013-03-10, 11:00)

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Re: Sagreras_Las_Segundas_Lecciones for proof-readers

Post by Tarbaby (1953 - 2016) » Sun Mar 24, 2013 3:26 am

Denis Paradis wrote:Spotted an error while playing through.

Lesson 13 measure 7 & 8 the G in the base should be an E (The G is unplayable in measure 7 following the fingering in the copy)
Hi guys.

I spotted an error while reading through this one too. In measures 4, 10, 12 & 28 the F#s on the 3rd beats should be E.

We can see from Denis' attachment that there's an F# in the 2nd measure, but that appears to have been fixed in the meantime. I guess the other's were missed.

Good job overall, guys. Thank you SO much for all of your work! :merci:

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Re: Sagreras_Las_Segundas_Lecciones for proof-readers

Post by Gabriel-guégan » Mon Mar 25, 2013 1:37 pm

Hello
I have a question in lesson 43 :
-Measure 24
Seconde Leçon JS Sagreras Leçon 43 mesure 24.jpg
How could i make sound the F during two time (half note) if i play the D harmonic on the 4th open string ?
In Melbay edition (96) it is the same writing
But in Transatlantiques edition (83) it's writing like this :
Seconde Leçon JS Sagreras Leçon 43 mesure 24b.jpg
It is the same for measure 16
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Couldn't we play the second D on the 5th string

Who is right, i am a bit lost

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