Sagreras_Las_Cuartas_Lecciones for proof-readers

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Re: Sagreras_Las_Cuartas_Lecciones for proof-readers

Post by Denis Paradis » Mon Dec 17, 2012 10:18 pm

Lesson 30

Part 1

Measure 29-30 the X position marker is shifted one measure to the right in the copy.

Actually make that last four measure (29 to 32)... Will try on guitar, thinking the position marker could span the whole passage apart from first beat on the G in measure 29.

EDIT yes definitely spans the whole, from the G on second beat of measure 29 until the end.

* G-B-E on first beat, open strings, "0" indications could be added for added clarity

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Shift2.jpg

Part 2

No time signature
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Meter4.jpg

Part 3

Measure 3 missing the legado indication between the F# and C# between the two beats.
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Part 4

Measure 8 last beat there is a hint that the legado has been added over the D but it is barely visible (it is present in measure 9 on the next staff) can it be made longer?
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Re: Sagreras_Las_Cuartas_Lecciones for proof-readers

Post by Denis Paradis » Mon Dec 17, 2012 10:21 pm

Lesson 30 Cont...

Part 5

Two issues in measure 13.

Firstly I think it would help having a position marker (10 -X) added here (not present in original)

Secondly over the first beat there are missing string (2) & (3) indications
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Part 6

Measure 17 same remark as previous one, a position marker (9 - IX) would help here. (not present in original)
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Re: Sagreras_Las_Cuartas_Lecciones for proof-readers

Post by Denis Paradis » Tue Dec 18, 2012 10:13 pm

Lesson 31

Part 1

The molto indication is over measure 29 in original, 28 in the copy.
Molto1.jpg
Molto2.jpg
Part 2

Measure 4 pulgar -p- indication missing on the two bass notes.
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Part 3

Note to self: Try fingering on measure 5 (need guitar)

Nothing to report here sorry :roll:
Fingering.jpg
Part 4

Measure 9 missing both string indication (4) and LH fingers -3-1- on the first beat
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Part 5

Measure 20 last beat there is a not needed repeated flat E, in the older writing convention it had to be specified as it was set natural in measure 18.
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Re: Sagreras_Las_Cuartas_Lecciones for proof-readers

Post by Denis Paradis » Tue Dec 18, 2012 10:15 pm

Lesson 31 cont...

Part 6

Measure 21 first beat there is a wrong LH finger indication on the G, -2- instead of -1-
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Re: Sagreras_Las_Cuartas_Lecciones for proof-readers

Post by Denis Paradis » Tue Dec 18, 2012 10:18 pm

Lesson 32

Part 1

Measure 9-10 legado sign missing on the A leading to the B in measure 10 (*it is present in measure 10 in copy not illustrated here)
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Part 2

Measure 27 second beat , wrong LH finger indication -2- instead of -1-
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Tomorrow on to lesson 33...

*Will make sure I edit the post from today and yesterday with guitar in hands tonight I forgot doing it last evening.
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Re: Sagreras_Las_Cuartas_Lecciones for proof-readers

Post by Denis Paradis » Wed Dec 19, 2012 10:41 pm

Lesson 33

Part 1

Measure 24 first beat, wrong string indication for the B (2) instead of (3)
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Part 2

Two issues in measure 28.

Firstly the position (VII) marker goes too far it should stop at measure 27. (In the original there was an error, dashed lines were absent)

Secondly same as in measure 24, wrong string indication (2) instead of (3) for the B in first beat.
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Re: Sagreras_Las_Cuartas_Lecciones for proof-readers

Post by Denis Paradis » Wed Dec 19, 2012 10:45 pm

Lesson 34

Part 1

Missing time signature
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Part 2

Measure 4 second beat, extraneous sharp sign over the D
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Part 3

Same remark as previous measure, in measure 5 this time, sharp signed doubled in same measure.

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Re: Sagreras_Las_Cuartas_Lecciones for proof-readers

Post by Denis Paradis » Wed Dec 19, 2012 10:48 pm

Lesson 35

Part 1

Inverted LH fingering indications in second beat of measure 28. -2- sould go over the C sharp and -1- for the E
Finger1.jpg
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Part 2

Measure 33 extraneous B flat alteration Key of F is already indicated.
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Part 3

All through the F section the downstem bass notes are not always struck with the thumb. Sometimes they are with the index.

It would be important to add the RH finger indications in the following measures:

20 (p), 26 (p), 34 (p), 36 (p), 40 (i), 42 (i), 44 (i)
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Re: Sagreras_Las_Cuartas_Lecciones for proof-readers

Post by Denis Paradis » Thu Dec 20, 2012 10:44 pm

Lesson 36

EDIT OK as you will see below on numerous post, reading the copy beside the original I was a bit at a lost without a guitar.

The problem being the position change from VII to II (1 in fact) is done differently in the copy, the notes can be played in position VII for the whole measure shifting position at the beginning of next.
I will edit the posts below accordingly.


Part 1

Opening measure missing the string indications (2) and (3)
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Part 2

Several issues in measure 1 split issues per beat.

Beat 1

1. String indicator (2) should be shifted to the high G note
2. String indicator (2) over middle G note extraneous
3. Missing string indication (4) on the E Edit see below (5)
4. Wrong LH fingering on the E -2- instead of -3- EDIT fingering correct in the copy in regards of position see below

Beat 2

5. Extraneous string indication (3) on the open string E
6. Missing LH finger indicaiton -3- on the E
7. Missing RH finger indication -p-m-i-

*Will need to play copy version on guitar to double check if errors are from original? EDIT in keeping with how the positions are played in the copy further down, the string indications for the first beat are: High G# (2) (as reported above), E (5) played at the 7th fret, mid G# (4) 6th fret
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Part 3

Measure 2 last beat shift the string indications (2) & (3) to the left by one note.
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Part 4

Measure 3

Again many inconsistencies between original and copy...

Missing string indications, wrong LH finger indications...In context OK

Error in string indications (4) and open string B... (EDIT shift to left)

Will need to play it on guitar... EDIT add string indication over high G# (2) as above E & mid G (5), (4)
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Re: Sagreras_Las_Cuartas_Lecciones for proof-readers

Post by Denis Paradis » Thu Dec 20, 2012 10:50 pm

Lesson 36 cont...

Part 5

Measure 4 last beat

Shift both the position marker and the (2) string indication to the left by one note.

Missing string indication (3) on the E
Position9.jpg
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Part 6

Measure 5 first beat:

Shift string indications (2), (5), (4), (3) to the left by one note.

Second beat:

Missing string indication (2) on the F

Position marker VII ends after F Edit disregard

Add Position marker II over the low B Edit disregard


Again need to try passage on guitar.
Shift11.jpg
Shift12.jpg
Part 7

Measure 6 second beat

Shift position marker VII and string indication (2) to the left by 1 note.
Marker13.jpg
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Part 8

Measure 7 Beat 1

Shift string indications to the left by one.

Beat 2

Missing string indication (2)

Span of position VII ends over F Edit disregard


Missing C2 position marker over B Edit disregard

Missing LH indications -1-3-1-
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Re: Sagreras_Las_Cuartas_Lecciones for proof-readers

Post by Denis Paradis » Thu Dec 20, 2012 10:55 pm

Lesson 36 cont...

Part 9

Measure 8 second beat

Shift string indications (2) by one ote

Missing string indication (3)
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Part 10

Measure 9

Shift string indications to the left...EDIT (3) is extraneous, add open string "0" indication on B

Inconsistencies between copy and original (missing fingerings, added string indications)

Need to try on guitar.

Will pick up testing this lesson tomorrow after I had a look on guitar to see if the reported errors (on positions and fingerings) are intentional... EDIT they were :)
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Re: Sagreras_Las_Cuartas_Lecciones for proof-readers

Post by Denis Paradis » Sat Dec 22, 2012 1:11 am

Lesson 36 cont...

Part 11

Measure 11

Shift the string indications to the left.
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Part 12

Measure 12-13 shift the string indications
More22.jpg
Part 13

Measure 14-15 more string indications to shift
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Re: Sagreras_Las_Cuartas_Lecciones for proof-readers

Post by Denis Paradis » Sat Dec 22, 2012 1:14 am

Lesson 37

Part 1

Measure 5 2nd beat, the string indication (5) is under the wrong note, shift to the right to D
Shift1.jpg
Shift2.jpg
Part 2

Measure 6 second beat, there is a shift in position here, missing string indications (4), (3) & (2)
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Part 3

Measure 16 the harmonic note symbols could be used here.
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Re: Sagreras_Las_Cuartas_Lecciones for proof-readers

Post by Denis Paradis » Sat Dec 22, 2012 1:17 am

Lesson 38

Part 1

Time signature missing
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Part 2

Measure 4 second beat, there is a discrepancy in the notation between the original and the copy, will try on guitar and report back.

Original has a ligado on 3rd string from A to C, copy gives string (4) for the A

EDIT the copy version is easier but brings a new error:

The position marker V should be moved back to the beginning of the beat to be above the A on the 4th string

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Re: Sagreras_Las_Cuartas_Lecciones for proof-readers

Post by Denis Paradis » Sat Dec 22, 2012 1:24 am

Lesson 39

Part 1

There is a dynamic expression (piu animato) missing at measure 24.

There is wrong (different?) dynamic expression at measure 28 ritardendo do instead of ritenuto
Dynam1.jpg
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Dynam3.jpg
Part 2

Measure 1-3 there are two ligado symbols missing, one between E and D# and the other between F# and F natural
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