If you only had one piece for slur practise...

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If you only had one piece for slur practise...

Post by TheCardMaker » Thu Oct 11, 2018 10:30 am

What would it be?

I recall seeing a video of someone playing I think a Bach piece on YouTube and it was full to the brim of slurs but I can't find it now and didn't make a note of it, would like to focus on a single piece to develop my left hand
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Re: If you only had one piece for slur practise...

Post by zupfgeiger » Thu Oct 11, 2018 10:33 am

Tarrega's technical studies, full of slur exercises.
Giovanni Tacchi, Bouchet model, spruce/BRAZ, 2018
Tobias Braun, Manuel Ramirez model, torrefied spruce/birds eye maple, 2018
Andrea Tacchi, Enrique Garcia model, Spruce/BRAZ, 2016
Giovanni Tacchi, Daniel Friederich copy, cedar/EIR, 2017

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Re: If you only had one piece for slur practise...

Post by georgemarousi » Thu Oct 11, 2018 11:05 am

I would recommend Villa Lobos etude 7, a great barre+scale, along with slurs etude!
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Re: If you only had one piece for slur practise...

Post by Adrian Allan » Thu Oct 11, 2018 11:31 am

Villa lobos etude 2

However, it is a killer - is there anybody here who thinks they can play it really well?
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Re: If you only had one piece for slur practise...

Post by TheCardMaker » Thu Oct 11, 2018 11:35 am

Yes the Villa Lobos pieces are more than a bit demanding, and as for adding barres into the mix that would wreck my old hands in about five minutes

Something baroquey should fit the bill but my knowledge of pieces for the guitar is a bit thin in that area. I'm thinking very scalic rather than with much harmony, but with non stop slurs, but that isn't a crazy study

I'm not fussy really, am I? ;-)
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Post by patspector » Thu Oct 11, 2018 12:39 pm

Bach Cello Suite I BWV 1007 Prelude

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Re: If you only had one piece for slur practise...

Post by bacsidoan » Thu Oct 11, 2018 12:45 pm

BWV 1007, Allemande, arranged by John W. Duarte
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Re: If you only had one piece for slur practise...

Post by Mark Clifton-Gaultier » Thu Oct 11, 2018 1:21 pm

What bizarre answers - VL2??

Surely VL3 (for instance) is a far better example of a "slur" study - yes there are a few ligado moments in 2 but that's really, really not what it's about.

Some others in vague order of difficulty:

Carcassi - Op.60, nos. 8, 9 & 10.
Barrios - Estudios del Ligado (in A and in Dm)
Brouwer - Etudes Simples 9, 13 & 14 (both subtitled por los ligados).
Villa-Lobos - Étude 10 (the Très animé section)
TheCardMaker wrote: Something baroquey should fit the bill but my knowledge of pieces for the guitar is a bit thin in that area.
Slurs should be used with great care in Baroque music so as not to disrupt the weight and contour of the line. The Prelude from BWV1007 already suggested might fit the bill but be aware that many editions (by "names") put the slurs in the wrong places. The famous Canarios of Sanz might suit you too - although the original was intended to be played almost entirely without slurs modern editions add plenty of them.
TheCardMaker wrote:I'm thinking very scalic rather than with much harmony, but with non stop slurs, but that isn't a crazy study
The studies above need not be played "crazy". A slower tempo can produce a very beautiful rendition - even of the Barrios.

There are plenty more from the classical/romantic era - check out collections by Giuliani and Carulli for easier examples.

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Re: If you only had one piece for slur practise...

Post by zupfgeiger » Thu Oct 11, 2018 2:01 pm

Fernando Sor, Etude op 6 no 3 (Segovia 11)
Giovanni Tacchi, Bouchet model, spruce/BRAZ, 2018
Tobias Braun, Manuel Ramirez model, torrefied spruce/birds eye maple, 2018
Andrea Tacchi, Enrique Garcia model, Spruce/BRAZ, 2016
Giovanni Tacchi, Daniel Friederich copy, cedar/EIR, 2017

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Re: If you only had one piece for slur practise...

Post by TheCardMaker » Thu Oct 11, 2018 4:45 pm

Thanks to all

Mark, I'll make it my homework tonight to check out these pieces, very grateful of the completeness of your reply!
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Re: If you only had one piece for slur practise...

Post by guitarrista » Thu Oct 11, 2018 6:12 pm

For technical practice, the ascending-descending triplet slurs from Tenant's Pumping Nylon - his exercise #6 of the daily warm-up routine.
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Re: If you only had one piece for slur practise...

Post by Adrian Allan » Thu Oct 11, 2018 6:37 pm

Although Etude 2 by VL is an arpeggio study by name, it is full of demanding slurs.
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Re: If you only had one piece for slur practise...

Post by TheCardMaker » Thu Oct 11, 2018 6:49 pm

I particularly like the Brouwer, I recall seeing him at the very first annual classical guitar festival in Chichester way back in around 1991

I think I'll buy some of his sheets, I had already got it in mind to get a couple of his pieces, I really like the study #14
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Re: If you only had one piece for slur practise...

Post by Tomino » Fri Oct 12, 2018 10:38 am

+1 for Brouwer and would add No.7 to above mentioned
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Re: If you only had one piece for slur practise...

Post by Mark Clifton-Gaultier » Fri Oct 12, 2018 2:13 pm

Adrian Allan wrote:Although Etude 2 by VL is an arpeggio study by name, it is full of demanding slurs.
No it isn't. You are mistaking Villa-lobos' use of thumb glissando for ligado markings.

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