Henny wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 18, 2018 2:03 pm
Hi all, Hi Jorge,
As we discuss Op 60 from Sor - maybe this question belongs somewhere else but it could be interesting for everyone here- you mentioned you edit your uploads, yes?
don't you think it will in the end turns against you?
how can you evaluate your progress.
Is there a specific reason you edit or is the road to learn from your 'one takes' too long?
do we not all have to learn to live with our mistakes while playing/recording
this is also a learning curve
i would be happy to have your/or someones feedback on this.
Thanks for introducing this theme, which I also think is of interest to us all. Let me then explain my position.
Since the beginning of this thread I always stated that when I feel I'm ready to record a new piece I start doing it as best as I can (I use the Handy Record App from ZOOM in my iPhone and an iRig external microphone connected to the iPhone via a Lightning to 3.5 mm Headphone Jack Adapter). But inevitably, along the way I make a mistake, be it a wrong note, a wrong tempo, whatever. When that happens I do not stop recording, I just restart the corresponding section or phrase and carry on until the next mistake happens. Again, I restart playing the section... and so on, until the end of the piece is reached. This recording phase can take me 10 to 15 minutes, depending on the length of the piece and the number of sections I had to repeat. I then transfer the audio file in the iPhone to my PC and with an audio editor, Audacity, I cut the bad sections and string together the good ones so as to have, in the end, an audio file with a complete rendition of the piece, which I, then, post in this Forum.
Why do I do this? Why not simply do a record in a single take, with errors and post the file anyway for everybody to listen to and comment? For two reasons: firstly, it is very unpleasant for anyone to listen to a piece with blatant errors, it would be unkind of me and, secondly, it would take me ages to reach a stage whereby I can play pieces two or three minutes long without mistakes and only then proceed to the next piece in the Opus. So I prefer to post an edited piece, listen to your critics and recommendations and, eventually, post a better version some time later, edited as well, where necessary. But this is not an uncommon practice. Anybody imagines that when a professional player goes to a studio to record a CD all the pieces come out straight, clean and without mistakes? No, in a recording studio the sound technician has at his disposal powerful editing tools, just to make sure that the final product is something people will buy and will always find pleasure to listen to.
In summary, when I do a record of a piece, albeit and edited one, I have it already "in my fingers", I really can play it from beginning to end, in spite of small mistakes that can pop out here and there. Moreover, as part of my daily practice, I play once or twice each and everyone of the Opus 60 pieces I have learned so far. As a result, and I checked it today, the way I now play the #1, for instance, has nothing to do with what I posted on 10-Dec-2016. And the same goes for the #3, the #5, the #12 (which I posted twice, I think), or the #16, which I posted also three times but is not yet right and I keep on rehearsing it so as to post it a fourth time, at the same time that I'm exploring the #19.
And this is my contribution to this discussion.