Hi mainterm:mainterm wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2018 10:06 pm...
Hi Jorge - I listened to your V1 and V2 recordings submitted 22-sep-17 and 08-nov-17. In terms of the slurs they seem essentially the same to me.
In these recordings you initiate both the 6 (m.38) and 7 (m.46) note groups late. Within each of these groups you initiate the second slur series late and then, also late to the party is the second beat, 7-6 suspension over F#/A.
Your LH fingers are actually moving quite fast and the notes are more or less clear. The issue you have is rhythmic timing, control and coordination - not speed. You may already be aware of all of this but it may help to restate the problem.
As for how to fix it, and without actually seeing you play, I suggest the following (applies to both measures). Keep in mind that you have muscle memories to erase and re-write - not an easy task:
1. set your metronome to click with every note. Start slowly and play each slur set this way. Be sure to include the down-beat in both cases (G/B 1/4 note diad) and the arrival of beat two (D7-6 chord). Only when you are able to execute this movement very consistently, precisely aligned with the metronome clicks and with clear sound, speed it up a little and proceed this way until you reach tempo where the clicks are too fast to make any sense.
2. practice the slur sets with LH alone - pluck the 'g' but no secondary articulation and focus on making each note of equal duration. Teach your LH what it feels like to do this. If you can visualize this movement clearly, and have a strong kinesthetic sense of it, it becomes much easier to speed it up.
These exercises should help you establish more control over these gestures when performing the piece - presumably to make them interesting in some way, not metronomic.
For example, when I play this piece I do not play these notes with perfectly even onsets (as I've described for practice above). I think they should be more nuanced.
Thank you so much for listening to my renditions of the #16 and for identifying the things I'm doing wrong in those two slurs - m.38 and m.46. What you say makes perfect sense. I can see it clearly now: I start the first note of the slurs too late, I do not allocate an equal time to each note of the slur, and, naturally, also end late, and therefore, do not succeed in entering the following measures within the right tempo. I'll work, then, with the metronome, starting tomorrow, focusing specifically in the slurs so as to reset and correct my muscle memory. I'm sure I'll succeed, I just need some time for that and, hopefully, in less than a fortnight I'll be able to post an acceptable new version of the #16 (an extremely beautiful piece, by the way). Thanks again for this "push" , I really needed it.