Exam Piece Etiquette

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Stephen Kenyon
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Re: Exam Piece Etiquette

Post by Stephen Kenyon » Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:40 am

Arash Ahmadi wrote:
Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:23 am
.... Even if the examiner has never seen the score or heard the music, it's very likely that during the viva voce he/she will ask the candidate "how come you didn't play this part as is indicated", etc......
There is no viva voce in ABRSM exams, and I can find no mention of such in the Trinity syllabus. What am I missing? The Musical Knowledge section does not seem to be related to aspects of the performance given.
Page 9 of my copy of the TCL syllabus does say "Candidates must provide photocopies of all pieces to be performed (excluding Trinity Publications) as a reference for the examiner. Photocopies will be ... destroyed after the exam." Which is fair enough, but referral to score is a practice not observed by past students taking Trinity. I do have a new student working towards G4 so will be interested in their experience.
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Re: Exam Piece Etiquette

Post by Arash Ahmadi » Wed Feb 14, 2018 11:16 am

Stephen Kenyon wrote:
Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:40 am
Arash Ahmadi wrote:
Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:23 am
.... Even if the examiner has never seen the score or heard the music, it's very likely that during the viva voce he/she will ask the candidate "how come you didn't play this part as is indicated", etc......
There is no viva voce in ABRSM exams, and I can find no mention of such in the Trinity syllabus. What am I missing? The Musical Knowledge section does not seem to be related to aspects of the performance given.
Page 9 of my copy of the TCL syllabus does say "Candidates must provide photocopies of all pieces to be performed (excluding Trinity Publications) as a reference for the examiner. Photocopies will be ... destroyed after the exam." Which is fair enough, but referral to score is a practice not observed by past students taking Trinity. I do have a new student working towards G4 so will be interested in their experience.
I have been talking more generally but:

ABRSM does have viva voce but for dip exams only.

About TCL, I think it's clear according to http://www.trinitycollege.com/resource/?id=4756 (page 23 of guitar syllabus) that the examiner will refer to the score. My students were asked about various aspects of the piece. Some questions were easier, some more challenging depending on the examiner.

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Re: Exam Piece Etiquette

Post by el Zilcho » Wed Feb 14, 2018 2:40 pm

Stephen Kenyon wrote:
Wed Feb 14, 2018 12:02 am
Please excuse my extreme confusion - ABRSM? Those pieces are not on the G5 syllabus for AB - or TCM. More alphabet soup required?
:mrgreen: Please forgive my malfunctioning noggin :lol:
It's LCM

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Re: Exam Piece Etiquette

Post by Stephen Kenyon » Wed Feb 14, 2018 3:09 pm

el Zilcho wrote:
Wed Feb 14, 2018 2:40 pm
Stephen Kenyon wrote:
Wed Feb 14, 2018 12:02 am
Please excuse my extreme confusion - ABRSM? Those pieces are not on the G5 syllabus for AB - or TCM. More alphabet soup required?
:mrgreen: Please forgive my malfunctioning noggin :lol:
It's LCM
Hopefully said noggin will be more refreshed on exam day :lol:
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Trevor Semple Series 88 (1992)
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Re: Exam Piece Etiquette

Post by el Zilcho » Thu Feb 15, 2018 9:59 am

Stephen Kenyon wrote:
Wed Feb 14, 2018 3:09 pm
el Zilcho wrote:
Wed Feb 14, 2018 2:40 pm
Stephen Kenyon wrote:
Wed Feb 14, 2018 12:02 am
Please excuse my extreme confusion - ABRSM? Those pieces are not on the G5 syllabus for AB - or TCM. More alphabet soup required?
:mrgreen: Please forgive my malfunctioning noggin :lol:
It's LCM
Hopefully said noggin will be more refreshed on exam day :lol:
At this rate i'll be happy to just turn up at the right place. :lol:

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Re: Exam Piece Etiquette

Post by Stephen Kenyon » Thu Feb 15, 2018 10:15 am

el Zilcho wrote:
Thu Feb 15, 2018 9:59 am
Stephen Kenyon wrote:
Wed Feb 14, 2018 3:09 pm
el Zilcho wrote:
Wed Feb 14, 2018 2:40 pm
:mrgreen: Please forgive my malfunctioning noggin :lol:
It's LCM
Hopefully said noggin will be more refreshed on exam day :lol:
At this rate i'll be happy to just turn up at the right place. :lol:
Remember you guitar :roll:
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Re: Exam Piece Etiquette

Post by DerekB » Thu Feb 15, 2018 11:49 am

Stephen Kenyon wrote:
Thu Feb 15, 2018 10:15 am
el Zilcho wrote:
Thu Feb 15, 2018 9:59 am
Stephen Kenyon wrote:
Wed Feb 14, 2018 3:09 pm

Hopefully said noggin will be more refreshed on exam day :lol:
At this rate i'll be happy to just turn up at the right place. :lol:
Remember you guitar :roll:
Don't forget you need to provide your own footstool. Otherwise your left foot might have to be supported by a pile of books or whatever else can be found in the exam room.
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Re: Exam Piece Etiquette

Post by razz » Sat Feb 17, 2018 8:29 pm

Stephen Kenyon wrote:
Thu Feb 15, 2018 10:15 am
el Zilcho wrote:
Thu Feb 15, 2018 9:59 am
Stephen Kenyon wrote:
Wed Feb 14, 2018 3:09 pm

Hopefully said noggin will be more refreshed on exam day :lol:
At this rate i'll be happy to just turn up at the right place. :lol:
Remember you guitar :roll:
A friend of mine showed up at an audition (2 hour drive) without his guitar. Somehow he got the gig.

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