Haydn Lute Music

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Haydn Lute Music

Post by musicbyandy » Sat Feb 09, 2019 2:15 am

Has anyone played Haydn's Guitar (lute) Quartet in D Major Op. 2 No. 2 (Hob III: 8) edited by Karl Scheit and published by Doblinger? If so, I'm wondering how the guitar is tuned in this edition and if the guitar is a separate part or does guitar read from the score.

I'm also wondering about the guitar tuning and if there is a separate part in Haydn's Cassation Hob III: 6 and Divertimento in F also from Doblinger and edited by Karl Scheit.

I have the Uitgave Metropolis edition edited by Victor van Puijenbroeck and the guitar is tuned 6th string to D & 3rd string to F#.

Is it realistic to play the Haydn lute music in standard guitar tuning?

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Re: Haydn Lute Music

Post by Altophile » Sat Feb 09, 2019 1:31 pm

musicbyandy wrote:
Sat Feb 09, 2019 2:15 am
Has anyone played Haydn's Guitar (lute) Quartet in D Major Op. 2 No. 2 (Hob III: 8) edited by Karl Scheit and published by Doblinger? If so, I'm wondering how the guitar is tuned in this edition and if the guitar is a separate part or does guitar read from the score.

I'm also wondering about the guitar tuning and if there is a separate part in Haydn's Cassation Hob III: 6 and Divertimento in F also from Doblinger and edited by Karl Scheit.

I have the Uitgave Metropolis edition edited by Victor van Puijenbroeck and the guitar is tuned 6th string to D & 3rd string to F#.

Is it realistic to play the Haydn lute music in standard guitar tuning?
I'm glad you posted this, as I had no idea that Haydn wrote for lute! Sorry I can't help you, but thanks for helping me :D

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Re: Haydn Lute Music

Post by pogmoor » Sat Feb 09, 2019 3:21 pm

Altophile wrote:
Sat Feb 09, 2019 1:31 pm
I'm glad you posted this, as I had no idea that Haydn wrote for lute! Sorry I can't help you, but thanks for helping me :D
I don't think Haydn did write for the lute. The Lute Quartet in D is an arrangement by unknown hands of Haydn's String Quartet Op 2 no.2 Several other Haydn string works were arranged in the same way. Jakob Lindberg has recorded "Haydn: Complete Works for Lute and Strings".
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Re: Haydn Lute Music

Post by Altophile » Sat Feb 09, 2019 4:04 pm

pogmoor wrote:
Sat Feb 09, 2019 3:21 pm
Altophile wrote:
Sat Feb 09, 2019 1:31 pm
I'm glad you posted this, as I had no idea that Haydn wrote for lute! Sorry I can't help you, but thanks for helping me :D
I don't think Haydn did write for the lute. The Lute Quartet in D is an arrangement by unknown hands of Haydn's String Quartet Op 2 no.2 Several other Haydn string works were arranged in the same way. Jakob Lindberg has recorded "Haydn: Complete Works for Lute and Strings".
Interesting, thanks for clarifying:-)

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Re: Haydn Lute Music

Post by musicbyandy » Mon Feb 11, 2019 3:38 pm

Doblinger responded to my inquiry and here are the results:

Haydn: Guitar (lute) Quartet in D Major Op. 2 No. 2 (Hob III: 8) edited by Karl Scheit
Guitar String 6 is tuned to D, there are 4 separate parts and a score

Haydn: Cassation Hob III: 6 edited by Karl Scheit
There are 3 separate parts – the guitar part includes the violin and cello lines above

Haydn: Divertimento in F edited by Karl Scheit.
There are 3 separate parts – the guitar part includes the violin and cello lines below

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Re: Haydn Lute Music

Post by Stephen Kenyon » Mon Feb 11, 2019 3:54 pm

pogmoor wrote:
Sat Feb 09, 2019 3:21 pm
Altophile wrote:
Sat Feb 09, 2019 1:31 pm
I'm glad you posted this, as I had no idea that Haydn wrote for lute! Sorry I can't help you, but thanks for helping me :D
I don't think Haydn did write for the lute....
This is correct; Hayden wrote nothing for lute.
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Re: Haydn Lute Music

Post by musicbyandy » Thu Feb 14, 2019 4:05 pm

How do people feel about playing the Haydn Lute Quartet in D Major versus the original E Major? I've never been able to find a version for guitar in E Major. I wonder if when guitarists play it in E Major if guitarists read from the original E Major edition.

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