Who Wrote Folia Variations?

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Who Wrote Folia Variations?

Post by Jim Davidson » Tue Mar 12, 2019 3:44 pm

Hi all,

I know of La Folia variations by Giuliani, Sor, Llobet, and Ponce. With how popular the theme is, does anyone know of other variations for it on guitar?
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Re: Who Wrote Folia Variations?

Post by RobMacKillop » Tue Mar 12, 2019 5:03 pm

Lots of them exist for baroque guitar.

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Re: Who Wrote Folia Variations?

Post by MartinCogg » Tue Mar 12, 2019 5:08 pm

As it happens I've had the La Follia, Variations Op.7 by Luigi Moretti (ed. Schiavina, Ut Orpheus) upon
my music stand for the past couple of days (the utorpheus.com website provides free sample pages).

I know there are other ones about me at home but I'm in my local library at the moment and can't
remember who dunnum.

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Re: Who Wrote Folia Variations?

Post by pogmoor » Tue Mar 12, 2019 6:46 pm

Eric from GuitarLoot
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Re: Who Wrote Folia Variations?

Post by Dirck Nagy » Tue Mar 12, 2019 7:36 pm

Kurt Martinez's dissertation: The Use and Adaptation of the Folia in Select Solo Guitar Repertoire (c 1600-20th Century). He also wrote an article in Soundboard: "Five Hundred Years of La Folia." Soundboard . 30, no. 4 (2004)

I havent read the dissertation, but I did see a lecture/recital of his about 15 years ago. He teaches at the University of Texas, Rio Grande. Contact him there...?

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Re: Who Wrote Folia Variations?

Post by MartinCogg » Tue Mar 12, 2019 9:00 pm

Two that I couldn't remember earlier -

Slightly obscure (c.1761), in Giacomo Merchi's LE GUIDE DES ECOLIERS DE GUITARRE , Oeuvre VII
(mod. pub. Minkoff facsimile)
there are variations numbered to 30, of interest I think, but more like exercises (and Merchi's
guitar at this point was double-strung 5 course - though not so far down the road he advocated
single strings, though still only 5... though some Merchi duet pieces throw in some low G's which
suggest a 6th string rather than a down-tuned 5th - but I digress).

Rather more goodly and not so obscure are Salvador Castro's (Castro de Gistau)
Variations de las Folias D'Espagne, Oeuvre X (mod. pub. in a SPES facsimile pack)
numbered to 31 variations.

I'm sure there are some (not at all obscure) more that I've still to remember :?

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Re: Who Wrote Folia Variations?

Post by Oudeis » Wed Mar 13, 2019 6:16 am

MartinCogg wrote:
Tue Mar 12, 2019 9:00 pm

Rather more goodly and not so obscure are Salvador Castro's (Castro de Gistau)
Variations de las Folias D'Espagne, Oeuvre X (mod. pub. in a SPES facsimile pack)
numbered to 31 variations.
A PDF facsimile of the his complete "journals de Etrangere" is available on the Bibliotheque Nationale de France (BnF) Gallica website. It has a set of 12 variations (p189).

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Re: Who Wrote Folia Variations?

Post by RobMacKillop » Wed Mar 13, 2019 10:01 am

Robert de Visée refused to write them, saying there were too many around, everybody was doing them.

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Re: Who Wrote Folia Variations?

Post by MartinCogg » Wed Mar 13, 2019 8:57 pm

Oudeis wrote:
Wed Mar 13, 2019 6:16 am
MartinCogg wrote:
Tue Mar 12, 2019 9:00 pm

.... Salvador Castro's (Castro de Gistau)
Variations de las Folias D'Espagne, Oeuvre X
A PDF facsimile of the his complete "journals de Etrangere" is available on the Bibliotheque Nationale de France (BnF) Gallica website. It has a set of 12 variations (p189).
Thanks that info Oudeis - I think it's (my 31 variations) a really good set... there are Castro items at BSB too
but seems not las folias (site of the Carulli link below, being one I couldn't rely on memory for yesterday)

Carulli op.75 - Les folies d'Espagne

https://reader.digitale-sammlungen.de/d ... 00005.html

I played through Merchi's set this morning and I think it's really quite sparky -
would be entertaining performed proper - and more fun than Carulli's D min. set,
though a similar sort of fish (I say that as a Carulli enthusiast).

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Re: Who Wrote Folia Variations?

Post by pogmoor » Wed Mar 13, 2019 10:31 pm

Oudeis wrote:
Wed Mar 13, 2019 6:16 am
MartinCogg wrote:
Tue Mar 12, 2019 9:00 pm

Rather more goodly and not so obscure are Salvador Castro's (Castro de Gistau)
Variations de las Folias D'Espagne, Oeuvre X (mod. pub. in a SPES facsimile pack)
numbered to 31 variations.
A PDF facsimile of the his complete "journals de Etrangere" is available on the Bibliotheque Nationale de France (BnF) Gallica website. It has a set of 12 variations (p189).
Worth a look; a nice set of folia variations, easy to find and straightforward to download :)
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Re: Who Wrote Folia Variations?

Post by Kenbobpdx » Wed Mar 13, 2019 11:07 pm

Bryan Johanson wrote a set of 30 variations if you are interested in a modern take. Its called La Folia Folio published by Productions D'Oz. The d'Oz site has some interesting history about Folia.
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Re: Who Wrote Folia Variations?

Post by MartinCogg » Thu Mar 14, 2019 8:30 pm

pogmoor wrote:
Wed Mar 13, 2019 10:31 pm
Oudeis wrote:
Wed Mar 13, 2019 6:16 am
MartinCogg wrote:
Tue Mar 12, 2019 9:00 pm

Rather more goodly and not so obscure are Salvador Castro's (Castro de Gistau)
Variations de las Folias D'Espagne, Oeuvre X (mod. pub. in a SPES facsimile pack)
numbered to 31 variations.
A PDF facsimile of the his complete "journals de Etrangere" is available on the Bibliotheque Nationale de France (BnF) Gallica website. It has a set of 12 variations (p189).
Worth a look; a nice set of folia variations, easy to find and straightforward to download :)
and having done that, I'm able to report that those 12 variations are included as part of the 31 variations
op.10 set, nearly identical versions, placement spread out + in different order.

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Re: Who Wrote Folia Variations?

Post by gilles T » Sat Mar 16, 2019 10:00 am

Hello,

22 variations written by François Le Cocq for baroque guitar, here : http://web.archive.org/web/200701200723 ... /index.htm

regards,
Gilles

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Re: Who Wrote Folia Variations?

Post by PaulHardy » Sun Mar 17, 2019 9:35 am

Anglo Gilardino wrote a set op 45

Search www.sheerpluck.de & there are 18 versions from the 20th & 21st centuries.

I have a recording of a variation set by François de Fossa

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Re: Who Wrote Folia Variations?

Post by Bernhard Heimann » Sun Mar 17, 2019 10:43 am

gilles T wrote:
Sat Mar 16, 2019 10:00 am
Hello,

22 variations written by François Le Cocq for baroque guitar, here : http://web.archive.org/web/200701200723 ... /index.htm

regards,
Gilles
Unfortunately, the PDF files have been replaced by an HTML error message (with file extension PDF), which says that the file is not available.
Obviously PDF files have been removed to save space in the web archive. :(

Bernhard

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