Shand, Ernest - op.100/49 Tempo di Valse

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Shand, Ernest - op.100/49 Tempo di Valse

Post by tateharmann » Sat Dec 30, 2017 2:04 am

Here's a little clip from tonight's practice. A charming little waltz by Mr. Shand taken from his "Improved Method for the Guitar" (opus 100). The intro note from the composer himself is dated 1896 so I assume that it was at least composed before then. It sounds ahead of it's time to me. Also, I'm playing with gut strings and no nails per the method that this very piece is taken from. Thanks for listening :casque: :merci:
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Re: Shand, Ernest - Tempo di Valse Op. 100 No. 49

Post by Stephen Kenyon » Sat Dec 30, 2017 9:15 am

Really nice! Its a good example of his approach, the melody being in the tenor voice much of the time. Do you have a copy of the Method?
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Re: Shand, Ernest - Tempo di Valse Op. 100 No. 49

Post by Luuttuaja » Sat Dec 30, 2017 9:25 am

That's a nice piece, thanks for sharing it!

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Re: Shand, Ernest - Tempo di Valse Op. 100 No. 49

Post by sxedio » Sat Dec 30, 2017 10:12 am

Well done, nice piece.
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Re: Shand, Ernest - Tempo di Valse Op. 100 No. 49

Post by tateharmann » Sat Dec 30, 2017 3:38 pm

Thanks folks ;)
Stephen Kenyon wrote:
Sat Dec 30, 2017 9:15 am
Really nice! Its a good example of his approach, the melody being in the tenor voice much of the time. Do you have a copy of the Method?
Yes, I do have it, and it is available publicly here: http://digital-library.csun.edu/cdm/sin ... d/98/rec/1

Thanks to Vahdah Olcott-Bickford's collection and CSUN Oviatt Library.
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Re: Shand, Ernest - Tempo di Valse Op. 100 No. 49

Post by Stephen Kenyon » Sat Dec 30, 2017 5:06 pm

tateharmann wrote:
Sat Dec 30, 2017 3:38 pm
Stephen Kenyon wrote:
Sat Dec 30, 2017 9:15 am
Really nice! Its a good example of his approach, the melody being in the tenor voice much of the time. Do you have a copy of the Method?
Yes, I do have it, and it is available publicly here: http://digital-library.csun.edu/cdm/sin ... d/98/rec/1
Thanks to Vahdah Olcott-Bickford's collection and CSUN Oviatt Library.
ah very good, interesting that's the only thing they (seem!) to make publicly available. And a shame from my point of view, because I have an original paper copy. Before the holiday I was emailing them about getting copies from them of the pieces I don't know, that seems to be on hold.
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Re: Shand, Ernest - op.100/49 Tempo di Valse

Post by tateharmann » Sat Dec 30, 2017 5:16 pm

Yea I always thought that they would start to make more and more of the collection available digitally...but it seems to be at a standstill since the initial release :/

There are other ways to get his works though - I have a number of them. Anything specific that you're looking for?
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Re: Shand, Ernest - op.100/49 Tempo di Valse

Post by sxedio » Sat Dec 30, 2017 6:23 pm

Thanks for the method, downloaded it and already looks like a very interesting document!
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Re: Shand, Ernest - op.100/49 Tempo di Valse

Post by JohnB » Sat Dec 30, 2017 6:35 pm

I have the Shand "Six Solos" from the old yellow covers Shott "Guitar Archives" series (Chanson, Valse Legere, Gavotte Rococo, Prelude et Impromtu, Chant du Soir, Il Pensieroso). Very enjoyable, even though the collection seems to be no longer available.
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Re: Shand, Ernest - op.100/49 Tempo di Valse

Post by Stephen Kenyon » Sat Dec 30, 2017 6:39 pm

tateharmann wrote:
Sat Dec 30, 2017 5:16 pm
Yea I always thought that they would start to make more and more of the collection available digitally...but it seems to be at a standstill since the initial release :/

There are other ways to get his works though - I have a number of them. Anything specific that you're looking for?
Well I have the Mel Bay and Gendai editions - both apparently out of print as well. Basically I was thinking of seeing what all the rest was like, since there is relatively little overlap between the two books.
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Re: Shand, Ernest - op.100/49 Tempo di Valse

Post by tateharmann » Sun Dec 31, 2017 12:05 am

Gotcha - does anyone know if a definitive catalogue of his work exists?
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Re: Shand, Ernest - op.100/49 Tempo di Valse

Post by Stephen Kenyon » Sun Dec 31, 2017 2:05 pm

tateharmann wrote:
Sun Dec 31, 2017 12:05 am
Gotcha - does anyone know if a definitive catalogue of his work exists?
Certainly not definitive because as far as I know, most of the opuses from 118 - 200 are lost. The Wikipedia page is probably accurate, though missing op 118 because I own probably the only surviving copy!
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Re: Shand, Ernest - op.100/49 Tempo di Valse

Post by tateharmann » Sun Dec 31, 2017 4:11 pm

Stephen Kenyon wrote: The Wikipedia page is probably accurate, though missing op 118 because I own probably the only surviving copy!
Share the wealth, man! Haha - if you want to, that is. You could carefully scan it and upload to imslp, no? Hehe :)
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Re: Shand, Ernest - op.100/49 Tempo di Valse

Post by Stephen Kenyon » Sun Dec 31, 2017 4:57 pm

tateharmann wrote:
Sun Dec 31, 2017 4:11 pm
Stephen Kenyon wrote: The Wikipedia page is probably accurate, though missing op 118 because I own probably the only surviving copy!
Share the wealth, man! Haha - if you want to, that is. You could carefully scan it and upload to imslp, no? Hehe :)
Maybe at some point. Unfortunately its not unproblematic - there doesn't appear to be an ending, so perhaps a page is missing.
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Re: Shand, Ernest - op.100/49 Tempo di Valse

Post by tateharmann » Sun Dec 31, 2017 5:17 pm

Ah bummer! Maybe we can fill in an ending with a stylistic educated guess? Haha...didn't Karl-Ernst Schröder do that with some Weiss manuscripts?
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