Cordoba C10 vs C12

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Cordoba C10 vs C12

Post by eschutz » Sat Jan 13, 2018 6:28 pm

Hello, everyone. I am considering buying either a Cordoba C10 or a C12. There is a significant price difference. Can anyone here advise me? Also, do other aspects matter like spruce vs cedar top, crossover vs standard classical, etc.? (I actually incline toward a spruce-top crossover.)

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Re: Cordoba C10 vs C12

Post by MrSteve » Sun Jan 14, 2018 10:52 pm

I think the c10 is a better value. Save the extra couple of hundred bucks.

Pros on the C12
Very pretty
Easy to play

Cons
Their version of the semi elevated fretboard is just silly. Not enough elevation to be useful

Action was high on the ones I tested

I'm personally not a fan of lattice bracing

I thought the guitar was on the quieter side.

I think if a grand was your budget, I would instead search the "for sale" section on this forum and find yourself a far greater value for a far greater guitar. You would be astonished at some of the pricing people are willing to sell. I guess it's a buyers market in the used classical guitar world.

Good luck

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Re: Cordoba C10 vs C12

Post by Laudiesdad69 » Mon Jan 15, 2018 6:57 am

I would go with the c10, as i dont really like elevated boards. The C10 is like the entry point for what the stereotypical CG should be...ebony board, rosewood back and sides, solid top, 52mm nut. Also the price is more attractive than the C12.

Please note, that for C10 money there are a lot of equal or better guitars out there. Check out the forum for sale ads. Check for one used, you'll get more guitar for your money.

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Re: Cordoba C10 vs C12

Post by Dave Stott » Mon Jan 15, 2018 11:42 am

Just to add some to the mix. Aside from changes in material, there's no difference between the C-9 & the C-10.

Since the OO mentioned " crossover". Look at the C-10 crossover.
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Re: Cordoba C10 vs C12

Post by David Conti » Mon Jan 15, 2018 5:00 pm

Since I get to see a lot of these as I sell both I would say if you want a traditional classical guitar sound go with the C10. These are super sounding guitars at the 1k price point. The C12 is latticed braced so it has a quicker attack and also has the elevated fretboard.
Personally, I like the C10 much better but to each his own.
The crossover C10 has a 48 mm nut width and a slight radius so thats much too narrow IMO for a classical. But if you are a steel string player it might feel great but too narrow for me, again IMO.
The C9 is mahogany back and sides and the C10 Indian rosewood. both all solid wood.

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Re: Cordoba C10 vs C12

Post by Ramon Amira » Mon Jan 15, 2018 7:13 pm

Neither. Instead of the C10, much better off with a Yamaha GC22. And instead of the C12, WAY better off with the Yamaha GC32.

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Re: Cordoba C10 vs C12

Post by souldier » Mon Jan 15, 2018 8:59 pm

I've had the chance to play several C10's and C12's side by side. I prefer the C10 since it has a more attractive tonal quality to my ear. The C12 will be marginally louder and can be driven a bit harder. I wouldn't really consider the C12 a superior instrument, just different, which may or may not suit the player.

The Yamaha GC32 is also an excellent guitar that is responsive, balanced, with good sustain and volume. It has a more clear, slightly less traditional tone which is characteristic of Yamaha Grand Concert guitars.
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Re: Cordoba C10 vs C12

Post by eschutz » Sun Jan 21, 2018 1:37 am

Thanks everyone for the advice. I'm going with the C10, for the moment at least. It sounds like the better buy between the two, and I have at least played it, albeit briefly, so it's a known thing to me. If I get a chance to play the 12 or either of the Yamaha's mentioned, I definitely may change my mind, but money and "search costs" are a pressing issue at the moment.

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Re: Cordoba C10 vs C12

Post by benb » Mon Jan 22, 2018 12:30 pm

I played both the C10 and C12 side by side and preferred the C10. The C12 was a nice instrument but couldn’t justify the extra cost. They were both spruce.
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Re: Cordoba C10 vs C12

Post by prawnheed » Mon Jan 22, 2018 12:38 pm

Ramon Amira wrote:
Mon Jan 15, 2018 7:13 pm
Neither. Instead of the C10, much better off with a Yamaha GC22. And instead of the C12, WAY better off with the Yamaha GC32.

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Re: Cordoba C10 vs C12

Post by Dave Stott » Mon Jan 22, 2018 3:01 pm

just a bit of advice... The neck profile / shape on the Yamaha's are a bit different from those on the Cordoba.... Try to find some Yamaha guitars to see if the neck profile is comfortable in your hands.

Personally, my left hand is much happier with the Cordoba than Yamaha.

A happy left hand makes for happier playing time
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Re: Cordoba C10 vs C12

Post by bauersachs82 » Mon Jan 22, 2018 9:32 pm

Dave Stott wrote:
Mon Jan 22, 2018 3:01 pm
just a bit of advice... The neck profile / shape on the Yamaha's are a bit different from those on the Cordoba.... Try to find some Yamaha guitars to see if the neck profile is comfortable in your hands.

Personally, my left hand is much happier with the Cordoba than Yamaha.

A happy left hand makes for happier playing time
This is a good point. I own a C10 and have played on a bunch of C9's and a C12. They have C shape neck profile. The Yamaha GC12 and GC32 I played on feel more like a D shape.

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Re: Cordoba C10 vs C12

Post by Debussychopin » Wed Jan 24, 2018 7:19 am

Ramon Amira wrote:
Mon Jan 15, 2018 7:13 pm
Neither. Instead of the C10, much better off with a Yamaha GC22. And instead of the C12, WAY better off with the Yamaha GC32.

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Re: Cordoba C10 vs C12

Post by eschutz » Thu Jan 25, 2018 9:47 pm

Hm, well, ok, the C10, in my brief experience with it, does not stack in to my comparison test - my Kenny Hill Player (Fingerstyle) is sweet and rich in comparison; the C10 is, well, just not. Admittedly, it may be due to the old strings it came to me with.... but I think I'm giving up on this particular pair of possibilities.

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Re: Cordoba C10 vs C12

Post by eschutz » Thu Jan 25, 2018 9:50 pm

One thing to add: yes, the neck profile on the Cordoba is nice. I do prefer it to the Player, but the difference for me is relatively unimportant, I guess.

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