Vincente Tatay Tomas SA

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Vincente Tatay Tomas SA

Post by Lyn » Tue Feb 06, 2018 11:40 pm

Been offered this guitar - believe it's circa 1962. Seems to have been well looked after. Label says Valencia, Spain. Any advice?
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Re: Vincente Tatay Tomas SA

Post by Williams » Fri Feb 09, 2018 2:24 am

I have one made in long Island in 1960 , a cousin I think sounds great ,I would not pay allot for it but it is all solid woods with fan bracing ,Enjoy

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Re: Vincente Tatay Tomas SA

Post by Lyn » Fri Feb 09, 2018 11:49 am

Williams wrote:
Fri Feb 09, 2018 2:24 am
I have one made in long Island in 1960 , a cousin I think sounds great ,I would not pay allot for it but it is all solid woods with fan bracing ,Enjoy
Thank you! That helps me make an informed decision! I know that after the sons took over the business, the later ones were 'factory' made and lower spec. I like the solid top and the traditional fan bracing.
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Re: Vincente Tatay Tomas SA

Post by bear » Fri Feb 09, 2018 12:56 pm

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Re: Vincente Tatay Tomas SA

Post by Lyn » Fri Feb 09, 2018 7:58 pm

Thanks, Bear - a HUGE amount of info! The one thing I can't find, is the SA after Tomas on the label (Vincente Tatay Tomas SA). Does this mean it was one of the factory-made instruments? I can't find any information about dating the labels,

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Re: Vincente Tatay Tomas SA

Post by bear » Fri Feb 09, 2018 8:45 pm

Lyn wrote:
Fri Feb 09, 2018 7:58 pm
Thanks, Bear - a HUGE amount of info! The one thing I can't find, is the SA after Tomas on the label (Vincente Tatay Tomas SA). Does this mean it was one of the factory-made instruments? I can't find any information about dating the labels,
I had not seen the SA before. The one thing that I did not like about my Tatay was The scale 655mm instead of 650 and the nut width of 50mm instead of 52. The combination did not work well for my damaged hands.
I'll look around for info on SA.
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2005 Jose Ramirez 4E 650mm ce
2005 Manuel Rodriguez Model C3F 650mm sp
2003 Manuel Rodriguez Model D 650mm ce

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Re: Vincente Tatay Tomas SA

Post by Lyn » Fri Feb 09, 2018 11:08 pm

Thank you! Appreciate it! I can't find any info about that 'SA' after the 'Tomas'. I don't mind the scale or width. I have a 630mm Scale, 50 mm width Córdoba Parlor and it's fine for my arthritic hands, but I really do not want a factory-made vintage instrument!

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Re: Vincente Tatay Tomas SA

Post by Erik Zurcher » Fri Feb 09, 2018 11:28 pm

My first guitar was a Vicente Tatay Tomas. That must have been around 1960. It was nice as a beginner's guitar. Vicente Tatay Tomas was one of the first mass-produced guitar brands: cheap and value-for-money. I believe you deserve a better guitar. Check out Scottish luthier Michael Ritchie.
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Re: Vincente Tatay Tomas SA

Post by Lyn » Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:58 pm

Erik Zurcher wrote:
Fri Feb 09, 2018 11:28 pm
My first guitar was a Vicente Tatay Tomas. That must have been around 1960. It was nice as a beginner's guitar. Vicente Tatay Tomas was one of the first mass-produced guitar brands: cheap and value-for-money. I believe you deserve a better guitar. Check out Scottish luthier Michael Ritchie.
Thanks, Erik. I think I'll say 'Thanks, but No Thanks' to the offer. I'd heard a lot about the makers, but didn't realise the more recent instruments were factory-produced. I like old guitars if they've been looked after, but I prefer hand built ones. I have a vintage P Calallero I bought from new around 1972. It was as expensive as I could afford at the time - I'm glad to say it has improved with age!
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Re: Vincente Tatay Tomas SA

Post by bear » Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:31 pm

Lyn wrote:
Fri Feb 09, 2018 11:08 pm
Thank you! Appreciate it! I can't find any info about that 'SA' after the 'Tomas'. I don't mind the scale or width. I have a 630mm Scale, 50 mm width Córdoba Parlor and it's fine for my arthritic hands, but I really do not want a factory-made vintage instrument!
Sociedad Anónima (S.A.) is a corporate designation. If, this is applicable to the cg in question then it was most likely a later factory model.
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2005 Jose Ramirez 4E 650mm ce
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Re: Vincente Tatay Tomas SA

Post by Lyn » Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:48 pm

bear wrote:
Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:31 pm
Lyn wrote:
Fri Feb 09, 2018 11:08 pm
Thank you! Appreciate it! I can't find any info about that 'SA' after the 'Tomas'. I don't mind the scale or width. I have a 630mm Scale, 50 mm width Córdoba Parlor and it's fine for my arthritic hands, but I really do not want a factory-made vintage instrument!
Sociedad Anónima (S.A.) is a corporate designation. If, this is applicable to the cg in question then it was most likely a later factory model.
Thanks, Bear! You just added weight to my decision not to proceed! :merci:

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Re: Vincente Tatay Tomas SA

Post by tateharmann » Sun Feb 11, 2018 10:39 pm

After seeing a number of these guitars online and hearing comments about them I came to want to play one :) I had a chance on a recent road trip where I popped into a guitar shop and they had one there. I was quite impressed with the sound and the general build quality. I like the 20th fret fingerboard extension and a lot of his rosettes. They are understated and remind me of some of the Vicente Arias's instruments.
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Re: Vincente Tatay Tomas SA

Post by MessyTendon » Thu Feb 15, 2018 4:26 am

They are great guitars even the older lesser models. The tuners are often pretty junky. So change those if they don't move smoothly.

62 is a good year :) They are lightly built, but the tuners might be touchy...if they are easy to move, keep them stock.

The key to getting a good Tatay is to not pay too much. The older upper tiered models are worth it, but the volume produced instruments are worth a bit less.

You aren't likely to find a very early Tatay, but the early 60's models are nice. Mine is the worst year, most likely late 70's. Thick top, thick Lacquer, but I like the sound.

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Re: Vincente Tatay Tomas SA

Post by Lyn » Thu Feb 15, 2018 10:53 am

Thanks for the advice, MessyTendon. The guitar did appeal, even though I think it might have actually been later than 1962, but I think the seller was asking an unrealistic price. So I decided to pass!

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