1979 Michael Gee classical guitar

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Re: 1979 Michael Gee classical guitar

Post by MancJonny » Thu Aug 09, 2018 11:35 am

There are quite a number of Michael Gee's guitars featured on YouTube, most of them recent and played by professional / semi-professional players.

From the point of early-built ones, search YT with:
"1980 Michael Gee Classical Guitar".

(Note: I was advised by a Mod when I joined the forum not to post direct links to external websites, so this is me doing as I am told).
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Re: 1979 Michael Gee classical guitar

Post by rinneby » Thu Aug 09, 2018 12:15 pm

Next week I'm going to play a Michael Gee 2010. Looking forward to it.

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Re: 1979 Michael Gee classical guitar

Post by Adrian Allan » Fri Aug 10, 2018 10:39 am

Had a look at the guitar this morning.

MancJonny got himself a real bargain. It still plays beautifully and has the signs of a very high quality guitar. The only recommendations I gave were to perhaps lower the saddle by a few mm, have the intonation finely checked by a luthier (it was a tiny bit flat higher up the frets) try out some different strings - as the D'addario can be a bit bland and perhaps the trebles could be brought out more - so I suggested trying some Oasis carbon trebles, but that is very much my personal preference.
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Re: 1979 Michael Gee classical guitar

Post by MancJonny » Fri Aug 10, 2018 2:33 pm

It was very kind of Adrian to give me an hour of his time and informed advice. Thank you!

I will be contacting a luthier (as yet, undecided) in respect of all of the above.

I would like new machine heads fitted, too; and possibly having the guitar cleaned-up a little more. I did what i think is a pretty good job, but, never having had a shellac-finished instrument before, I approached the piece very gingerly, to say the least.

Any further comments on any matters touched on in this thread are still most welcome.
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Re: 1979 Michael Gee classical guitar

Post by JohnB » Fri Aug 10, 2018 3:45 pm

MancJonny wrote:
Fri Aug 10, 2018 2:33 pm
I will be contacting a luthier (as yet, undecided) in respect of all of the above.

I would like new machine heads fitted, too; and possibly having the guitar cleaned-up a little more. I did what i think is a pretty good job, but, never having had a shellac-finished instrument before, I approached the piece very gingerly, to say the least.
Congratulations about the guitar.

It is a very personal choice but I would be inclined to keep the original tuners, as long as they are decent and are functioning properly - they go with the guitar (I would lubricate them of course).

If there are squeaks, sticking etc when you turn the tuners that can be probably be dealt with fairly easily e.g.

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Re: 1979 Michael Gee classical guitar

Post by Stephen Kenyon » Fri Aug 10, 2018 5:18 pm

JohnB wrote:
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If there are squeaks, sticking etc when you turn the tuners that can be probably be dealt with fairly easily...
As above, plus lube the nut slots, traditional method is graphite, special concoctions also available.
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Re: 1979 Michael Gee classical guitar

Post by Guitar-ded » Fri Aug 10, 2018 6:29 pm

Very nice. Thnks for sharing.
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Re: 1979 Michael Gee classical guitar

Post by MancJonny » Fri Oct 19, 2018 8:59 pm

Quick update: this guitar has been shipped to Roger Williams at Lichfield for a full inspection & appraisal of what may be done to restore it to tip-top condition.

Watch this space . . . .
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Re: 1979 Michael Gee classical guitar

Post by MancJonny » Sun Dec 09, 2018 7:56 pm

Roger Williams has undertaken pretty extensive work on this instrument and will be shipping it back to me after the Xmas-parcel-delivery-madness.

I shall update this thread with all of the relevant details, work done, pictures, etc., in the new year.

It's looking good. It's looking very good indeed . . . . .
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Re: 1979 Michael Gee classical guitar

Post by rinneby » Sun Dec 09, 2018 9:37 pm

MancJonny wrote:
Sun Dec 09, 2018 7:56 pm
Roger Williams has undertaken pretty extensive work on this instrument and will be shipping it back to me after the Xmas-parcel-delivery-madness.

I shall update this thread with all of the relevant details, work done, pictures, etc., in the new year.

It's looking good. It's looking very good indeed . . . . .
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Re: 1979 Michael Gee classical guitar

Post by DerekB » Mon Dec 10, 2018 9:18 am

It's nice to know my recommendation has had a good outcome.
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Re: 1979 Michael Gee classical guitar

Post by MancJonny » Fri Jan 11, 2019 6:34 pm

I will be taking delivery of the guitar next week and will post all the details shortly afterwards.

Can't wait!
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Re: 1979 Michael Gee classical guitar

Post by MancJonny » Sun Feb 03, 2019 1:12 pm

Finally took delivery of the guitar from Roger Williams - he has done a fine job of restoring and repairing the instrument.

An initial inspection convinced him that the piece had been well looked-after and didn't need refinishing. ("One of the best of this age I have seen"). The frets clearly needed work doing, as did a saddle replacement - the latter was a poor fit. The saddle block needed tapering to allow the action to be reduced. Here it is finished:
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On closer inspection, however, it was clear that more work was necessary. Having attempted to level the frets, Roger found that the fingerboard, originally flat, had become concave, causing the fret ends to lift and making it impossible to level them properly. That meant that the fingerboard needed to be re-surfaced and then re-fretted. Also, the tuning machine rollers were badly cracked and were not far from disintegrating:
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So new tuners were required too. Here are the replacements:
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After replacing the frets and modifying the bridge, the head-stock sides were dressed and re-polished; and the neck - a little "lumpy" from nail-marks - was re-polished too. As the neck was being re-finished, Roger suggested the addition of 2 pearl position dots on the fingerboard edge. I opted for 1.5 mm ones at the 5th & 7th frets:
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Finally, he re-strung the guitar with the strings shown above.

All in all, a lovely job, well-done and reasonably-priced. It's easy to see why Roger has the reputation he has for his work.

Any comments from forum members is most welcome.

And thank you again to those of you who pointed me in Roger's direction.
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Re: 1979 Michael Gee classical guitar

Post by MessyTendon » Sun Feb 03, 2019 3:31 pm

As for tuners...for the money 80-100$ a set of Rubner will be nice...for 300$ Gilberts...ugly but the best performance...only the most expensive tuners can compete with Gilberts smooth action for the money.

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Re: 1979 Michael Gee classical guitar

Post by acmost9 » Sun Feb 03, 2019 3:41 pm

MessyTendon wrote:
Sun Feb 03, 2019 3:31 pm
...Gilberts...ugly but the best performance..
or...not ugly.

OP congrats, looks great!

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