Full size or 7/8 ?

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Full size or 7/8 ?

Post by Japple » Tue Jan 01, 2019 2:21 pm

I’m a adult male, but I have really small hands. Index to pinky spread is 5” and my index finger is 2 7/8” long.

Should I be considering a 7/8 or even 3/4 size ?

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Re: Full size or 7/8 ?

Post by simonm » Tue Jan 01, 2019 5:43 pm

Certainly there is no reason to be a masochist. Try a smaller instrument and see if it feels better. There is nothing magic about a 650 scale - it is the same concept as "one size fits everybody" in the clothes world. It makes for easier marketing for big companies.

Try out a yamaha guitalele - very cheap and you can probably sell it on for not far off what you paid for it. For the money the sound is acceptable. You could consider it as the extreme end of the smaller guitar range. From there you could work your way back up.

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Re: Full size or 7/8 ?

Post by soltirefa » Tue Jan 01, 2019 6:41 pm

That's definitely a short spread. Just to be sure, you mean from tip of pinky to tip of thumb? I'm not quite 8 inches and I thought I was really short.

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Re: Full size or 7/8 ?

Post by Japple » Tue Jan 01, 2019 8:41 pm

Tip of index to tip of pinky.

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Re: Full size or 7/8 ?

Post by soltirefa » Tue Jan 01, 2019 8:45 pm

An old thread about hand size. Pinky to thumb is the usual measurement. I see rereading your original post you did say index to pinky.

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Re: Full size or 7/8 ?

Post by nmshu1 » Tue Jan 01, 2019 11:43 pm

I like my 630 with 3/4 body size. Easy to play. I do not think there is a standard 650/52/42 to meet everyone's requirement.
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Re: Full size or 7/8 ?

Post by Japple » Wed Jan 02, 2019 11:58 am

My thumb to pinky is 7.5”

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Re: Full size or 7/8 ?

Post by doug » Wed Jan 02, 2019 12:07 pm

Japple wrote:
Tue Jan 01, 2019 2:21 pm
I’m a adult male, but I have really small hands. Index to pinky spread is 5” and my index finger is 2 7/8” long.

Should I be considering a 7/8 or even 3/4 size ?

Thanks

Jim Apple
I think this distance....index to pinky....is more relevant than thumb to pinky. My hands have similar measurements to yours, and I play a 640 scale. I think a 630 would be a little easier to play, but I've never played one.
My "gauge" of what scale is comfortable to me is, if I can play the G on the third fret of the 6th string and the B on the seventh fret of the first string. I couldn't do that comfortably on a 650 scale, so I tried a 640.
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Re: Full size or 7/8 ?

Post by bear » Wed Jan 02, 2019 1:10 pm

First, I would stay away from american measurements. All 7/8ths are not the same. All 2 inch nuts are not the same. Metric is more accurate. A 650 mm (full size) will always be a 650mm.
Second, as with many things in life, size doesn't matter. It's what is comfortable for you and the sound that it produces.
Third, the neck shape is also a factor. "C" shape, "D" shape, etc. it can make a difference. My Rodriquez and Ramirez are the same size but the Ramirez has a slightly fatter neck.
I have 640mm with a 50mm nut. I had it for a couple of weeks and regretted not getting a 52mm nut.
If, you can try before you buy that would be great. If, you have access to someone' else's cg then try it. My wife (4'10") plays a 580mm with a 50mm nut. She also plays a 655mm x 50mm.
When, I first started with cg, I had problems making the stretch (especially getting my pinky to the F#) so I ordered a 640mm. Now I mostly play a 10 string. The scale is 650mm and the neck width is somewhere around 88mm.
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Re: Full size or 7/8 ?

Post by Chuah Hui Hsien » Sun Jan 06, 2019 3:32 pm

Your hands are just slightly bigger than mine, by half an inch when spreading out.

I am playing a 64cm scale length,50mm nut width, smaller body size - 35cm lower bout "La Suprema" guitar.I think you should be able to play this similar option.

However, I am more comfortable playing 615cm cadette size guitar.You can consider 630cm scale length too.
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Re: Full size or 7/8 ?

Post by souldier » Sun Jan 06, 2019 4:56 pm

It would go for a Cordoba C10 Parlor. It's a 7/8 (630 scale) and very comfortable to play.
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Re: Full size or 7/8 ?

Post by simonm » Sun Jan 06, 2019 5:44 pm

soltirefa wrote:
Tue Jan 01, 2019 8:45 pm
An old thread about hand size. Pinky to thumb is the usual measurement. ...
It may be the "usual" measurement but it is utterly daft, internet nonsense. :-)

You don't use your thumb on the front of the fretboard. An occasional player may come over the top but that is quite rare in the classical world.


Bear makes a lot of sense above. Look at the dozens of tiny kids playing huge guitars on you tube. Flexibility is the thing and a good teacher will show you exercises.

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Re: Full size or 7/8 ?

Post by soltirefa » Sun Jan 06, 2019 5:49 pm

simonm wrote:
Sun Jan 06, 2019 5:44 pm
soltirefa wrote:
Tue Jan 01, 2019 8:45 pm
An old thread about hand size. Pinky to thumb is the usual measurement. ...
It may be the "usual" measurement but it is utterly daft, internet nonsense. :-)

You don't use your thumb on the front of the fretboard. An occasional player may come over the top but that is quite rare in the classical world.


Bear makes a lot of sense above. Look at the dozens of tiny kids playing huge guitars on you tube. Flexibility is the thing and a good teacher will show you exercises.
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Re: Full size or 7/8 ?

Post by J.W.C. » Sun Jan 13, 2019 1:03 am

souldier wrote:
Sun Jan 06, 2019 4:56 pm
It would go for a Cordoba C10 Parlor. It's a 7/8 (630 scale) and very comfortable to play.
I just bought a C9 Parlor (basically the same as the C10 Parlor but with mahogany sides/back instead of rosewood). I'm short (about 5'5"), and it definitely feels a little easier to play than my 650mm Aria. I'm pleased with it, so far.

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