Cordoba C12? or Keep My C9?

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Cordoba C12? or Keep My C9?

Post by rsclosson » Thu Jan 03, 2019 4:30 am

I hope it doesn’t seem like too silly a question, since the price alone might seem to make it a step up.

I’m soon to have the opportunity to test play a like new C12. I’ve been enjoying a C9 for several years and am still amazed by the rich tone and projection of that inexpensive guitar.

I have no idea what to expect; especially since I once compared it side by side with a more expensive Solista. The C9, to my ear won hands down. Not sure if my C9 is typical or if all the planets aligned the day it was made, but tone, volume and projection just amazed me.

Can anyone tell me from experience what to expect? (Both Guitars have cedar tops.)

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Re: Cordoba C12? or Keep My C9?

Post by rinneby » Thu Jan 03, 2019 8:14 am

I would say the step up is probably not big, especially since you like your C9. But only you can tell if its "worth" it. However, it sounds like you have an excellent example of a C9 on your hand, and it may very well suit your personal needs better than the C12.

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Re: Cordoba C12? or Keep My C9?

Post by nmshu1 » Thu Jan 03, 2019 9:53 am

Keep your C9!

C9 is good enough for playing at home.
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Re: Cordoba C12? or Keep My C9?

Post by keithwwk » Thu Jan 03, 2019 10:22 am

I think Fan bracing on C9 and lattice bracing on C12 should have very different in voicing.
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Re: Cordoba C12? or Keep My C9?

Post by MrF1 » Thu Jan 03, 2019 10:45 am

I've owned both guitars.....I was disappointed in the C12 and was always very impressed with the C9. My ear has always preferred fan bracing over lattice bracing.

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Re: Cordoba C12? or Keep My C9?

Post by Keith » Thu Jan 03, 2019 11:02 am

a youtube review of the C12

The only question I would have with the guitar would be the thickness of the top. The guitar is lattice braced and typically lattice braced tops are thinner than fan braced. If the guitar top is fan braced thick but with lattice bracing then there should not be any issues with durability. The raised finger board is sort of a joke when compared to a real raised finger board (see the video around 3:50). As to selling the C9, if the C12 is heads and tails better then the answer should be clear but I would imagine you will take a financial hit selling the C9

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Re: Cordoba C12? or Keep My C9?

Post by rsclosson » Thu Jan 03, 2019 4:16 pm

I’m kind hoping that the C9 wins. It would certainly save me some dollars. I got it used for an unbelievable price, and have compared it to several more “upscale” guitars with very favorable results. Very rich Spanish sound to my ear, but not muddy. Nice clear trebles and powerful basses.

The C12 is also pre owned and in excellent condition I am told. I can get it for just over 1000. This would be my first lattice braced guitar if it happens.

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Re: Cordoba C12? or Keep My C9?

Post by Flapjack » Fri Jan 04, 2019 1:10 am

I have not played a C12, but I own a C9 that, to my ears, sounds better than any other classical guitar I have played. I admit that I have not had been able to play any priced $1,500 or more new, though.

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Re: Cordoba C12? or Keep My C9?

Post by souldier » Fri Jan 04, 2019 4:51 pm

I've owned a C9 for many years. I have had the chance to compare it side by side to some luthier instruments in the $3000-6000k range and to my shock and dismay I often preferred the C9. This is how I discovered that price, maker, etc. can be highly subjective in the classical guitar market.

I've also compared it to a C12, and honestly prefer the C9/C10. The C12 has lattice bracing, which allows it to be driven a bit harder to get a little more volume, but the C9 has a more beautiful, alluring tone. The C12 sounded sterile and boring to my ears. The small bump in dynamic range you get from the C12 IMO is not worth the loss of tonal beauty. The C12 is quite overpriced and not an upgrade over the C9 if you ask me. I too prefer the C9 over the cordoba espana series guitars.

At the price of the C12, I'd take a look at a Yamaha GC32. The GC32 is a bit more lively, balanced, responsive, clear with a higher dynamic range, while also having a beautiful tone, albeit quite different from the C9. The C9 has a warmer more "spanish" tonal profile while the GC32 will be less forgiving and require better tone/technique from the player.
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Re: Cordoba C12? or Keep My C9?

Post by Baryll » Fri Jan 04, 2019 8:16 pm

souldier wrote:
Fri Jan 04, 2019 4:51 pm
I've owned a C9 for many years. I have had the chance to compare it side by side to some luthier instruments in the $3000-6000k range...
Lots of notorious and famous luthiers have just turned in their graves :lol:
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Re: Cordoba C12? or Keep My C9?

Post by bauersachs82 » Fri Jan 04, 2019 9:05 pm

The C9 holds it's own against the C12 and the Solista. With the C12 you are paying more for the lattice bracing, slightly elevated fretboard, and the flame maple strip on the back.

The necks will feel similar. They are both a C profile shape.

I think the C9 sounds bigger and more open than the C12. The C12 is more focused.

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Re: Cordoba C12? or Keep My C9?

Post by rsclosson » Sat Jan 05, 2019 3:52 am

Interesting observations that seem to align with my experience. My C9 never ceases to amaze me.

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Re: Cordoba C12? or Keep My C9?

Post by Ramon Amira » Sat Jan 05, 2019 5:05 am

Neither. For a hundred dollars less you can get a Yamaha GC32. Makes the Cordoba C12 sound like a beater. Will be an unequivocal step up.

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Re: Cordoba C12? or Keep My C9?

Post by rsclosson » Sat Jan 05, 2019 1:08 pm

Ramon Amira wrote:
Sat Jan 05, 2019 5:05 am
Neither. For a hundred dollars less you can get a Yamaha GC32. Makes the Cordoba C12 sound like a beater. Will be an unequivocal step up.

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Should have mentioned that the C12 is used and I can get it for just over $1000. Not sure how much of a factor that is but it is supposedly in mint condition

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Re: Cordoba C12? or Keep My C9?

Post by Ramon Amira » Sat Jan 05, 2019 8:47 pm

rsclosson wrote:
Sat Jan 05, 2019 1:08 pm
Ramon Amira wrote:
Sat Jan 05, 2019 5:05 am
Neither. For a hundred dollars less you can get a Yamaha GC32. Makes the Cordoba C12 sound like a beater. Will be an unequivocal step up.

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Should have mentioned that the C12 is used and I can get it for just over $1000. Not sure how much of a factor that is but it is supposedly in mint condition
Then for $1000 you can get a new Yamaha GC22 - still better than the C12 and it's new besides, and even costs less.

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