Folledanza wrote: ↑
Thu Feb 14, 2019 4:55 pm
Hi Carlos, Thanks a lot for your advise.
I have no picture of the Ramirez, but I will certainly have to reset the fingerboard and frets and I also will need to clean and revarnish the top (it's horribly worn and dirty...
I did not fund any stamp above the label, is that usual?
On the stamp, please note that I am answering with limited knowledge of what Ramirez was doing in the 50´s-60´s. I understand there was a period where they were mainly doing tablao guitars, particularly during the spanish civil war (1936-1939) when they had limited access to good material. Then they started to differentiate into 1a and other models, and I also understand there was a new impulse given by Jose Ramirez III (who took over the workshop when Jose Ramirez II died in 1957). I cannot say exactly what they were doing in 1960. I note that they did not mention 1a in the guitar label at this time, yet I could find different type of headstocks in the 50´s with some modern ones and other more like the previous "rougher" type. And some where you could see the wood is not top of quality.
Hence, probably, I would say the absence of stamps likely indicate something about the model you have which might not be the top of the line. There were already stamped model coming out of Ramirez 1a in 1960 (see that instance here: https://www.guitarsalon.com/store/p3486 ... meida.html
One way to try to identify where your guitar stands, in terms of model line, could be to compare it with all those examples available for Ramirez in the flamenco guitar museum here: https://www.flamenco-guitar.net/museum/jose-ramirez/
and the other instance of "vintage Ramirez" you could find on line.
I would however not give too much weight on whether the guitar was a top of the line or not, as the woods used at that time where of very good quality, and the guitar has aged (which gives a particular charm to the sound), hence what you should rely most on to judge is the sound, which you say is nice - and this is all what matters.
I also agree with Rasqueo and simonm that the Ramirez is very likely the better option to go - but we are speaking without having even seen the instrument.
I do not know how much the luthier intervention you have in mind would cost where you are. As far as I could see, a complete refret would cost ca 180€, a rebarnish - say- 400€. So let´s say you would be around 700$+1500$, which would still not be a bad price yet of course not as good as 1500 but then the guitar would be in very good condition.
Personally I would avoid as much as possible touching the guitar, eg I would adjust what needs to be adjusted so that the guitar is playable, but avoid re-varnishing it if not really needed. But it is true that it is also a pleasure to have a good looking guitar to play.
Lastly, as you are aware (as you opted to look for a guitar from the 60's), when buying this Ramirez you are also adcquiring a piece of history. This is also something which brings joy and satisfaction and at this stage the type of model matters less than when buying a new guitar.
By the way: could you tell us what is the guitar scale ?