The videos of it I saw, with Pepe Romero talking about it and playing it (and it sounds beautiful, and not only because it's Pepe playing it!) say that pine needs to be very old to be as good as the best spruce, because of the high resin content in the pine.
Doug - how long had the pine sat drying that you used for your FE17?
I would bet the same goes for white pine too. I just took a look at king billy images on Google - what an awesome looking tree...like something out of Jurassic World haha! Isn't radiata pine from down there too? A lot of that gets sold up here as "select" clear pine.Alan Hamley wrote: ↑Sat Sep 16, 2017 8:03 pmHi Doug and tateharmann,
Yes it is a super set alright but its well know there are King Billy tops out there that are very floppy and tap like a wet blanket. Just the matter of selecting the right top, back and sides to try an achieve your aim.
Interesting comment. My first reaction to the sound that Pepe Romero gets from the pine top instrument at GSI was also that: lovely but definitely on the warm/mild side. Very pleasing to listen too, but would it be too polite in the long run? A guitar can do with a bit of an edge to the sound. But tastes vary, including my own at different times.Jim Frieson wrote: ↑Mon Sep 25, 2017 9:02 amIn Spanish , spruce is also called Pino Abeto . Pino means Pine . Spruce is called Picea Abies , botanical nomenclature . It is a confusion .
Maybe I would like Tasmanian pine .... have heard good things about it .
I only made one guitar with a pine top , it was Canadian pine from an old casting dye , structurally perfect .
Sabicas played it and he said " how does he make it so sweet ? " ... but really it was too mild a sound for my satisfaction .
What a wonderful guitar, I did not know it existed, but for the recording it has a beautiful and lovely sweet sound. Marianto Tezanos Sr built his first guitars with pine for the neck and top, and cypress or coral for the back and sides, and those guitars made Ramirez III bringing him into his workshop, but there are very very few of those guitars from the 1940s-1950s, this one really surprised me and made me just want to make one!Michael.N. wrote: ↑Mon Mar 07, 2016 12:11 amHey! The very first guitar I made had a pine top, salvaged from an old door. Unfortunately (perhaps fortunately) it went on a bonfire a few years later. One day I might try and recreate that guitar, if only for the sake of nostalgia.
The 'solid pine top' you mention may well have been spruce. Sometimes people interchange the terms. Then again it may well have been a pine top.
Bouchet's very first guitar had a pine soundboard. It does seem to sound a little different but not in a bad way. I quite like the sound of it.
Visually the soundboard certainly has the look of pine, wide grain. What we would call a grade C soundboard. Tonewood dealers stop at grade B.
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