Oh, it was you who got it from there? Congrads! I was also looking at this one but I got the previous 1967 so decided to pass on this one. But good that I didn't bid, otherwice we would compete and raise the price. Mine just arrived yesterday.bullpuppy wrote: ↑Sun Jun 25, 2017 2:39 pmI just purchased my first rokutaru nakade. It is a 1972 A70. From other posts I am assuming that the 70 means it was priced at 70000 yen in 1972 which 10000 yen less than kohno lowest model 8 of that year. I have a sakazo nakade 1200y from 1970 which is my current favorite guitar. I am not sure what was the top model for him in 1972 or did he signed or just stamped his models.
I am wondering if anyone else own examples from both brothers and how would you characterizes their sound. My Sakazo 1200Y is constructed like a ramirez 1a but the sound has elements of a cross between a Kohno and ramirez. Very high volume and very rich,lively, even, clarity.
Has anyone had a higher model than A70 from 1972?
My Rokutaro is 5 braces as well. It's interesting that Sakaze's guitars seem to be higher valued in Japan and usually sell for higher prices. Have you tried other Rokutaro's guitars? I'm wondering if they all have that special sound or it's just your guitar that happens to be so special.dandan wrote: ↑Sun Jun 25, 2017 3:09 pmVery nice! I saw that and wondered who might pick it up. My Sakazo Nakade is a great all-rounder, it has a slight nasal quality, similar to how I have heard the Fleta sound described. It has warmth, but is also clear and sweet when required. It has 7-strut fan bracing, so quite different from your 1200y, yours is a higher model. My Rokutaro has 5 fan braces, I think it would be considered Bouchet-style. It is slightly smaller bodied, with 50mm nut and a slim neck profile that I love. To my ear, there is also something special about the sound. The Sakazo is similar to the sound in my head, whereas the Rokutaro has an extra something difficult to define. I love them both, but if I had to choose one it would be the Rokutaro.
Good Work. dandandandan wrote: ↑Wed Apr 12, 2017 6:50 pmI have recently figured out Sakazo Nakade's numbering system. In the early 60s he used a system of B1, B2, B3, etc. I've no idea what the B stood for. His brother Rokutaro used a similar system with A as a prefix. I've seen A3, A5, A7, A9 and A12. In each of the systems the number relates to the price in yen, eg. A5 was 50,000¥. While Rokutaro kept his system until his untimely death in 1972, Sakazo changed his system in the late 60s. Initially he just used letters, eg. A, B, C, D, E. About 1969 he started to use numbers as well, again to reflect the price of each model, like so:
800 SF (not sure what the S is for)
I've also seen 1200 S and 1500 S, which don't fit into this system, so I can only guess the S stands for special, maybe special order or special edition, I'm not sure. I do know the models up to 600 E were Indian rosewood 800 SF and above were Brazilian. He used this system from 1969 until at least 1974, when I guess he put his prices up. I'm not sure about the late 70s, but in the 80s he used only numbers, 2000, 3000, 5000 and 8000, each again reflecting the price of each model.
I might be the only one who finds any of this interesting, but thought I'd share anyway!