Advice requested on cheap armrest

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Dr ToneControl
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Advice requested on cheap armrest

Post by Dr ToneControl » Sun Mar 11, 2018 7:43 am

I bought a budget cutaway classical with a pickup as a contrast to my main classical guitar, probably to keep in a DADGAD tuning,
It's a Yamaha CGX122MCC

It plays well enough, but the edge of the body is so sharp, that I have to wear a thick shirt to avoid discomfort on my forearm
I thought an armrest could solve this, but since it was not an expensive guitar, I don't want to spend much. I've seen some cheap ones on e - b a y, but they are very vague about what size guitar they are made for

Does anyone have any advice please?

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Re: Advice requested on cheap armrest

Post by KlaBueBaer » Sun Mar 11, 2018 3:29 pm

Hi
you should have a look at the "Abel armrest". I have one since several months and it solved the problem with the sharp edge (and some other issues i had). I use it on several guitars. Price in germany ~60 Euro without shipping (e.g. classical-strings d o t com).
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Re: Advice requested on cheap armrest

Post by Stephen Kenyon » Sun Mar 11, 2018 5:55 pm

Simon Ambridge has one made, I think 3D printed, from memory it was £45.
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Re: Advice requested on cheap armrest

Post by Dr ToneControl » Sun Mar 11, 2018 5:55 pm

KlaBueBaer wrote:
Sun Mar 11, 2018 3:29 pm
Hi
you should have a look at the "Abel armrest". I have one since several months and it solved the problem with the sharp edge (and some other issues i had). I use it on several guitars. Price in germany ~60 Euro without shipping (e.g. classical-strings d o t com).
thanks, sounds interesting
Is it suitable for someone (like me) who does not use the "correct" playing position?

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Re: Advice requested on cheap armrest

Post by KlaBueBaer » Sun Mar 11, 2018 6:14 pm

Hi
i dont know what a "not correct" playing position means ;-)). Due to the fact that it is usable for "lefties" as well you can mount this armrest on nearly every point at the side of the guitar where you find a concave place. Mounting/dismounting takes only a few seconds.
You may start a search on the forum for the able armrest. As far as i remember there was a discussion in 2012/13 about this issue.
btw: i have no relationship to the able company.
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Post by KlaBueBaer » Sun Mar 11, 2018 6:26 pm

watch the video on yt with param /watch?v=2ZihTL3vTcA
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Re: Advice requested on cheap armrest

Post by Lovemyguitar » Sun Mar 11, 2018 6:40 pm

An even cheaper alternative is to buy a padded arm sleeve to slip on when you play. Oasis makes one, and if you search this forum, there has been some discussion of those and others.

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Re: Advice requested on cheap armrest

Post by prawnheed » Sun Mar 11, 2018 7:56 pm

I had a similar problem and gently sanded the sharp edge off. I didn't need to go through the finish to make a huge difference to the feel.

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Post by vesa » Mon Mar 12, 2018 5:31 am

Liikanen makes one (40€).
Their webshop is only in finnish but you can mail to them and ask.
Unless you can finnish? :D
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Re: Advice requested on cheap armrest

Post by Robert Goodwin » Mon Mar 12, 2018 2:54 pm

I had the same problem with one guitar. Early on, I picked up a cheap wooden armrest from that online auction site (wink wink). It did not come with any means of attaching the armrest to the guitar. It was just the wooden piece. the outside form was pleasing to my eye and the finish was natural and looked quite polished. The inside finish was also nice but not as polished. Over the face of the guitar, the underside of the armrest was cut away such that there was an air gap between the armrest and the face of the guitar. Some would claim this improves volume by prevents damping the face by pressing your arm on the face. I don't know, just saying.

The curvature on the side that fits against the body of my guitar was not a match for my guitar. I shaved a bit off inside here and there to get closer to the correct curve. I used thick double sided sticky tape to attach it to the body of the guitar. It has been in place now for about seven years. I have no idea what effect the adhesive on the tape has had on the finish of the body. For me, that's ok because I'm not going to sell that guitar and the armrest will stay there. I've always felt a certain bond with that guitar.

One thing about this was I could place the rest exactly where my arm fell naturally on the guitar. This is effected by how you hold your guitar so that should be settled before adding an armrest.

Of course, if this is an exceptional guitar worth a quality upgrade, there are luthiers here that can do the job right.

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Re: Advice requested on cheap armrest

Post by rwe » Mon Mar 12, 2018 11:02 pm

I use Abel armrests on a CG and on a bass CG (75 cm scale). Having untypically long arms the armrest helps me finding a better position and I think it will be useful for non-classical playing techniques too.

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Re: Advice requested on cheap armrest

Post by Sharkbait » Fri Mar 30, 2018 5:23 am

Lovemyguitar wrote:
Sun Mar 11, 2018 6:40 pm
An even cheaper alternative is to buy a padded arm sleeve to slip on when you play. Oasis makes one, and if you search this forum, there has been some discussion of those and others.
For a cheap guitar like the Yamaha CGX122MCC, I’m not sure it’s worth spending too much to buy a cheap armrest and spending the time & effort to affix it to the guitar at the right point of the curve of armrest & guitar.

The padded arm sleeve is a good idea; I have a similar Yamaha (CG122MC) which also has a sharp edge, so made a dirt-cheap DIY version to protect my forearm.
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Mine is from some leftover padding material (like a thick neoprene or hard sponge, picked up, iirc, from a bike shop’s discarded rubbish - they padded the bodies of higher-end bikes with this) and a section of elasticised bandage material (of a width meant for the thigh rather than arm so as to accommodate the padding).

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Re: Advice requested on cheap armrest

Post by Dr ToneControl » Fri Mar 30, 2018 7:15 am

Sharkbait wrote:
Fri Mar 30, 2018 5:23 am
Lovemyguitar wrote:
Sun Mar 11, 2018 6:40 pm
An even cheaper alternative is to buy a padded arm sleeve to slip on when you play. Oasis makes one, and if you search this forum, there has been some discussion of those and others.
For a cheap guitar like the Yamaha CGX122MCC, I’m not sure it’s worth spending too much to buy a cheap armrest and spending the time & effort to affix it to the guitar at the right point of the curve of armrest & guitar.

The padded arm sleeve is a good idea; I have a similar Yamaha (CG122MC) which also has a sharp edge, so made a dirt-cheap DIY version to protect my forearm.

0EF843DF-A7BC-4068-9A0A-9436516BA607.jpeg
F0CF5DD3-DB3A-4D63-82CE-044B99F3B284.jpeg

Mine is from some leftover padding material (like a thick neoprene or hard sponge, picked up, iirc, from a bike shop’s discarded rubbish - they padded the bodies of higher-end bikes with this) and a section of elasticised bandage material (of a width meant for the thigh rather than arm so as to accommodate the padding).


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very good thinking

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