German V. Rubio built Requinto at an artisan level...it is available at Guitar Salon International now.
That's very interesting and great. I wonder if they're sold in the US yet.Forget requintos, i.e. instruments of a smaller scale, too often badly designed and built. You can now enjoy low E tuning (bass), low A tuning (baritone), G tuning (terz), A tuning (requinto) and even B tuning (no name for it yet!) on standard scale, high quality instruments, which happen to sound way better than any poorly up- or down-sized guitar. All you need is just to mount the new sets by Aquila Strings:
https://shop.aquilacorde.com/product-ca ... -a-tuning/
Right. It's definitely going to be harder. It is essentially a different instrument. And due to the sheer difference in production volumes, builders are very far from having with requintos the same level of experience and craftsmanship they have with guitars. Not to mention the wrong scaling of the body of the instrument (another false myth). Truth is, such instruments were only needed because of string technology limitations, which today have been overcome.soltirefa wrote: ↑Wed Mar 14, 2018 3:59 pmI tried a German Vazquez requinto briefly when I was in his shop. I was thinking the short scale would make playing easier. But I actually found it hard to play. Maybe with more time I'd get used to it. But if you're going to get a requinto because you think playing a shorter scale would be easier - not necessarily.
Skills have nothing to do with inferior sound quality of requintos (of course, they may be built very well technically and aesthetically). It is just the vast collective wisdom on that specific size accumulated during the last 150 years or so that make standard guitars superior.
If your starting assumption is that a requinto is not meant to sound as good as a 650 scale concert guitar, then I fully agree. Myself, I like that kind of sound and I expect that level of quality from an extended range instrument. Otherwise, I would just turn to ukelele, mandolin, etc. So I would buy a 650 mm concert classical and, in order to get a different range, I would string it with extended range strings.Michael.N. wrote: ↑Wed Mar 14, 2018 4:46 pmThey aren't necessarily a scaled down guitar either. Just a different version or perhaps an instrument in it's own right, the much smaller body size and smaller soundboard aggregate will have consequences on the tone - you just have to remember that it's not meant to be a 650 mm scale concert classical guitar. If you want that type of sound you may as well buy a 650 mm concert classical!
That's exactly my point. What if you can get a great sound from the usual 650 mm scale instrument you master, just a perfect fourth or fifth higher or lower? Why should a player still look for radically different, inferior sound quality instruments? Not me. Would you force beginners into learning how to handle a different instrument? Of course not! As a consequence, they'll have little or no opportunity to do real high quality ensemble music, just cheap arrangements (in the past they were aptly called "reductions") ...Michael.N. wrote: ↑Wed Mar 14, 2018 4:46 pmAs for ease (or not) of playing - well that probably depends on the players and how much time they are prepared to put into the instrument. You can't expect it to feel easy when coming from a much larger 650 mm guitar, it takes time to become accustomed to that type of change. If you had been playing a 580 mm scale for a few years and then tried a 650 mm for the very first time no doubt you would be telling everyone just how fiendishly difficult a 650 scale is to play. Of course there are other factors such as hand/finger size but that applies to all stringed instruments.
No need to be sorry. I invite you to read carefully what I wrote. Of course what I state is just my subjective opinion; do not mistake my strongly expressed (in the limits of my modest English), clear personal opinion, for an attempt to impose anything on anybody. And where, ever, did I try to impose my "tonal aesthetic" on anybody?Michael.N. wrote: ↑Wed Mar 14, 2018 7:07 pmSorry but that's not my starting assumption at all. Good, better, are all subjective opinions. All you are saying is that a requinto is inferior. It isn't, it's just different. Some people actually like the sound just as it is, no different to some people liking the sound of a ukulele or the fact that some people prefer playing the lute or a romantic guitar instead of a modern classical. In which case it isn't inferior. Presumably they play them because they like the sound just as they are and who are we to impose our tonal aesthetic on them. Of course you are perfectly free to tune a modern guitar to any note you wish. Some people may agree with you, I'm sure some will not.
i don't know what the original request in respect of requinto's has to do with forcing anyone (beginners or otherwise) into anything. If people wish to play a requinto - let them! I've made and played terz guitars. Lovely little instruments!
My interest in acquiring a "good" requinto involves the shorter scale, for playing early 16th century 6-course lute or vihuela music without a capo. Capirola, Milano, Luys Milan, Alonso Mudarra, Spinacino. A huge repertoire available. There are some tremendous stretches required in certain pieces!