Something unusual about Jason Vieaux guitar...???

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Something unusual about Jason Vieaux guitar...???

Post by Arash Ahmadi » Tue Mar 12, 2019 10:39 pm

Hi folks, I was watching this video today and noticed something very unusual about Jason Vieaux DT guitar. There seems to be cracks all over the place on the top... So just wanted to ask you luthier folks:

1-What has possibly happened to this guitar? I am sure Jason knows very well how to take care of his guitar and I have never noticed so many cracks on any pro performer's guitar before.

2-Could it be because the top is thinner than most of other DTs?

3-Something seems to be slightly off with the sound but only if you listen meticulously tight. How come it is still sounding OK with too many cracks?

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Post by Beowulf » Wed Mar 13, 2019 2:13 am

I am not a luthier...but I wonder if what you are seeing is unevenness in the finish under bright lighting??
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Post by Christopher Langley » Wed Mar 13, 2019 2:18 am

Merely superficial finish cracks. The lighting makes them stick out. Much harder to see in natural light.

He probabaly loves the sound and just doesn't wanna screw with it, at all.

I have a Seagull with a crack like this. I saw a dieter hopf a while back that was absolutely covered in finish cracks. I actually liked the look.
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Post by Brittunculus » Wed Mar 13, 2019 7:25 am

Double top looking at the makers label. The cracks look deeper than just the finish. Jason is a great guitarist.

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Post by Rasqeo » Wed Mar 13, 2019 8:32 am

Does look quite bad and the guitar is only a few years old. Jason plays and travels a lot so I imagine his guitars don’t have the easiest of lives.

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Post by Arash Ahmadi » Wed Mar 13, 2019 10:24 am

Christopher Langley wrote:
Wed Mar 13, 2019 2:18 am
Merely superficial finish cracks. The lighting makes them stick out. Much harder to see in natural light.

He probabaly loves the sound and just doesn't wanna screw with it, at all.

I have a Seagull with a crack like this. I saw a dieter hopf a while back that was absolutely covered in finish cracks. I actually liked the look.
Hi Chris, I agree with Brittunculus. It looks deeper than a finish crack...
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Post by zupfgeiger » Wed Mar 13, 2019 11:31 am

It's a Gernot Wagner DT guitar. Jason doesn't seem to bother very much about the crack, probably indeed only superficial.
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Post by Dofpic » Wed Mar 13, 2019 12:56 pm

He played at my house 18 months ago and there were no cracks at the time. This recording sounds very dry but trust me in person it sounds great. I owned a 1931 Simplicio(ex Rey del Torre) that was loaded with cracks(that were cleated) but was the best sounding and recording guitar I ever heard and was told to never repair the top to new as the sound might never be the same. The new owner owns a professional recording studio and tells me everyone who records on it tells them its the best recording guitar they ever heard.
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Re: Something unusual about Jason Vieaux guitar...???

Post by Arash Ahmadi » Wed Mar 13, 2019 1:10 pm

zupfgeiger wrote:
Wed Mar 13, 2019 11:31 am
It's a Gernot Wagner DT guitar...
True, Gernot admits that his tops are very thin... That's why it makes me suspect that it might be the reason.
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Post by Arash Ahmadi » Wed Mar 13, 2019 1:12 pm

Dofpic wrote:
Wed Mar 13, 2019 12:56 pm
He played at my house 18 months ago and there were no cracks at the time. This recording sounds very dry but trust me in person it sounds great...
Lovely! I guess he had another GW DT with Rio rosewood then which he sold and bought this one with Indian rosewood.
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Post by Arash Ahmadi » Wed Mar 13, 2019 1:13 pm

Seems like luthiers don't want to participate in this thread?
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Re: Something unusual about Jason Vieaux guitar...???

Post by Justfun » Wed Mar 13, 2019 4:10 pm

Yes, I do see the cracks.

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Re: Something unusual about Jason Vieaux guitar...???

Post by Jason Wolverton » Wed Mar 13, 2019 6:12 pm

I don't think they're cracks. What you're seeing is the braces "telegraphing" through the top. The areas between the braces have gone a bit concave, and the areas supported by a brace have remained ridged. The high contrast light makes them look more obvious. This can happen on any lightly built guitar. Looks a little scary, but it wouldn't put me off a great sounding guitar.
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Re: Something unusual about Jason Vieaux guitar...???

Post by Arash Ahmadi » Wed Mar 13, 2019 10:29 pm

Jason Wolverton wrote:
Wed Mar 13, 2019 6:12 pm
I don't think they're cracks. What you're seeing is the braces "telegraphing" through the top. The areas between the braces have gone a bit concave, and the areas supported by a brace have remained ridged. The high contrast light makes them look more obvious. This can happen on any lightly built guitar. Looks a little scary, but it wouldn't put me off a great sounding guitar.
Hi Jason, if your theory is correct the top even thinner than I thought, almost transparent!... very extreme!!!
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Re: Something unusual about Jason Vieaux guitar...???

Post by Arash Ahmadi » Wed Mar 13, 2019 10:30 pm

Dofpic wrote:
Wed Mar 13, 2019 12:56 pm
He played at my house 18 months ago and there were no cracks at the time...
Meanwhile, maybe you could ask him if they are cracks? We'd have a definite answer!
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