Kohno & - Sakurai Guitar Fan Club, Delcamp branch

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Re: Kohno & - Sakurai Guitar Fan Club, Delcamp branch

Post by oc chuck » Thu Mar 07, 2019 5:04 am

tkoehler1 wrote:
Sun Feb 17, 2019 11:58 pm
City and Country: Dayton, OH USA
Make: Kohno
Model: #20
Date of Production: 1977
Date of Acquisition: 2019
Price of Acquisition: $2500 USD
Top: Spruce
Back: Brazilian Rosewood
Side: Brazilian Rosewood
Neck: ?
Fingerboard: Ebony

I am still getting used to the thicker neck and 660 scale. It's currently got high tension strings and high "concert player" action. So it's a bit of a handful playability wise. I'm going to have a new lower saddle made and string it with regular tension and see how it goes.


Be sure to keep the original saddle.
Lowering the saddle and lower tension strings could result in some buzzing.

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Re: Kohno & - Sakurai Guitar Fan Club, Delcamp branch

Post by rinneby » Thu Mar 07, 2019 5:26 am

macnylonguitar wrote:
Thu Mar 07, 2019 12:44 am
Great to be here, and any more info I can get on Masaki Sakurai and his guitars, greatly appreciated,

Any suggestions / recommendations on a M Sakurai....

Might I find a used / older say 2010 M. Sakurai Professional J, say in $3500-$4000 range.

As I say above, for sure my next guitar is a Masaki Sakurai, $6500 is steep, but I get it, that's what that level costs.

I did play the "Concert R" model as well for $5,500, and to me it was not the same guitar at all.. It almost fest like another luthier build, not made by Sakurai, compared to the Pro J.

The volume, tone, response, was nowhere near the Pro J. Even the neck / fretboard, was nowhere near as precise / meticulous as the Pro J. That's just a testament to the Pro J craftmanship.

I am also selling another guitar on Reverb, a Seth Miller Hauser, you can look it up, having a hard time selling this guitar, and I am not sure why, I suppose an "unknown" builder. Has a nice full tone for $2300.

Perhaps I have to put on consignment at McCabes in Santa Monica, or something like that, suggestions much appreciated

Thanks in advance, macnylon
Welcome Macnylon. First of all, I wouldn't call a Sakurai from 2010 particularly "old" - as he has been building under his own label since 1975. With that said, Yes - You can find a Pro-J for that price, with a little bit of luck.

I find it interesting that you found the Pro-R och Pro-J vastly different, where they the same year? Mr Sakurai has changed his bracing and building technique over the years.

It's easier to find used guitars from Sakurai/Kohno in EU, I have a friend who is selling a Pro-J from 1994 for example, but then you have to deal with customs and shipping. Instead my advice is: If you happened to find a guitar that you really like, that speaks to you on every level (like this Pro-J that you actually played) - it is worth that extra cost for sure. Not every guitar is the same, same label/builder or not.

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/Jon
1964 - Masaru Kohno No.7
1999 - Lorenzo Frignani
2017 - Tobias Braun

Feel free to ask me anything about Japanese classical guitars.

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Re: Kohno & - Sakurai Guitar Fan Club, Delcamp branch

Post by rinneby » Thu Mar 07, 2019 5:37 am

Here's my beloved Masaru Kohno (Kono) No.7 from 1964. The tuners are upgraded to Alessi with stainless silver and MOP. Spruce top and Brazilian back and sides. It's without any doubt the best Kohno/Sakurai I have every played. Wonderful cello-like basses and sweet creamy trebles, just the way I like it. And so easy on the hands, it feels almost like cheating when playing:

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/Jon
1964 - Masaru Kohno No.7
1999 - Lorenzo Frignani
2017 - Tobias Braun

Feel free to ask me anything about Japanese classical guitars.

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Re: Kohno & - Sakurai Guitar Fan Club, Delcamp branch

Post by Jason » Thu Mar 07, 2019 12:08 pm

Very nice!
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Re: Kohno & - Sakurai Guitar Fan Club, Delcamp branch

Post by Tom » Thu Mar 07, 2019 12:52 pm

Very nice 64 no.7, i also have a 64 Kono

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Re: Kohno & - Sakurai Guitar Fan Club, Delcamp branch

Post by astro64 » Thu Mar 07, 2019 1:04 pm

Jon, what is the bracing pattern in your No 7?

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Re: Kohno & - Sakurai Guitar Fan Club, Delcamp branch

Post by macnylonguitar » Thu Mar 07, 2019 6:01 pm

@/Jon,

Thanks for the info, much appreciated. I hope to keep getting as much info in Sakurai as I can.

Yes, agreed. I was surprised the Concert model did not feel or sound the same, at least to me, it was very different. Not bad, but to me wasn't the same experience as the Pro J, which for me was on another level.

I am wondering if Pro J's are similar across the years, and and when did Sakurai come up with the "new" bracing he refers to in his "Iron Chef" type video piece.

I am guessing mid 2000's, 2005 maybe. That being said, my guess is, a very early 70's Sakurai is going to some different than, anything newer, and with each decade until the present.

It should have always been obvious to me, but now I have to play the guitar, no mail orders. When I have not done that, there is always some (a lot) of regret.

I have my ears / eyes on this 2018 Sakurai (cedar, which surprised me how bright it was. Did not miss the spruce at all)...at GSI Santa Monica, it's still there, been there for 1 year at least...

Yes, it seems a challenge finding these Sakurai's in the USA. Reverb, e - b a y, etc.. That tells me players love them and are holding onto them...

Also, any advise on selling my SM Hauser model, perhaps here in delcamp classifieds, etc

thx, john

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Re: Kohno & - Sakurai Guitar Fan Club, Delcamp branch

Post by macnylonguitar » Thu Mar 07, 2019 6:10 pm

@/Jon,

Thanks for the info, much appreciated. I hope to keep getting as much info in Sakurai as I can.

Yes, agreed. I was surprised the Concert model did not feel or sound the same, at least to me, it was very different, not bad, but to me wasn't the same experience as the Pro J, which for me was on another level.

I am wondering if Pro J's are similar across the years, and and when did Sakurai come up with the "new" bracing he refers to in his "Iron Chef" type video piece.

I am guessing mid 2000's, 2005 maybe. That being said, my guess is, a very early 70's Sakurai is going to some different than anything newer, and with each decade until the present.

It should have always been obvious to me, but now I have to play the guitar, no mail orders. When I have not done that, there is always some (a lot) of regret.

I have my ears / eyes on this 2018 Sakurai (cedar, which surprised me how bright it was. Did not miss the spruce at all)...at GSI Santa Monica, it's still there, been there for 1 year at least...

Yes, it seems a challenge finding these Sakurai's in the USA. Reverb, e - b a y, etc.. That tells me players love them and are holding onto them...

Also, any advise on selling my SM Hauser model, perhaps here in delcamp classifieds, etc

thx, john

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Re: Kohno & - Sakurai Guitar Fan Club, Delcamp branch

Post by powermrk » Fri Mar 08, 2019 3:41 am

Hello Kohno fans,

Who has had chance to play Kohno 5-fan, 7-fan and 9-fan of 60's?

If do so, can you make a comparision between them in terms of timbre?

Thanks

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Re: Kohno & - Sakurai Guitar Fan Club, Delcamp branch

Post by rinneby » Fri Mar 08, 2019 12:28 pm

powermrk wrote:
Fri Mar 08, 2019 3:41 am
Hello Kohno fans,

Who has had chance to play Kohno 5-fan, 7-fan and 9-fan of 60's?

If do so, can you make a comparision between them in terms of timbre?

Thanks
5, 7, 9 fans, who cares? The Kohno's from the mid 60s are always great :)

/Jon
1964 - Masaru Kohno No.7
1999 - Lorenzo Frignani
2017 - Tobias Braun

Feel free to ask me anything about Japanese classical guitars.

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Re: Kohno & - Sakurai Guitar Fan Club, Delcamp branch

Post by powermrk » Sat Mar 09, 2019 2:34 pm

Did Masaru Kohno change the spelling of his last name from Kono to Kohno in 1963?
I found some 66' made No.5 guitars still keep used the last name "Kono" for the label.

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Re: Kohno & - Sakurai Guitar Fan Club, Delcamp branch

Post by rinneby » Sat Mar 09, 2019 6:39 pm

powermrk wrote:
Sat Mar 09, 2019 2:34 pm
Did Masaru Kohno change the spelling of his last name from Kono to Kohno in 1963?
I found some 66' made No.5 guitars still keep used the last name "Kono" for the label.
No, in 1965.

Kind regards
/Jon
1964 - Masaru Kohno No.7
1999 - Lorenzo Frignani
2017 - Tobias Braun

Feel free to ask me anything about Japanese classical guitars.

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Re: Kohno & - Sakurai Guitar Fan Club, Delcamp branch

Post by powermrk » Sun Mar 10, 2019 4:59 am

rinneby wrote:
Sat Mar 09, 2019 6:39 pm
powermrk wrote:
Sat Mar 09, 2019 2:34 pm
Did Masaru Kohno change the spelling of his last name from Kono to Kohno in 1963?
I found some 66' made No.5 guitars still keep used the last name "Kono" for the label.
No, in 1965.

Kind regards
/Jon
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Re: Kohno & - Sakurai Guitar Fan Club, Delcamp branch

Post by rinneby » Sun Mar 10, 2019 9:17 am

powermrk wrote:
Sun Mar 10, 2019 4:59 am
rinneby wrote:
Sat Mar 09, 2019 6:39 pm
powermrk wrote:
Sat Mar 09, 2019 2:34 pm
Did Masaru Kohno change the spelling of his last name from Kono to Kohno in 1963?
I found some 66' made No.5 guitars still keep used the last name "Kono" for the label.
No, in 1965.

Kind regards
/Jon
13920988_10210145522692017_6633973041785552409_n.jpg
Nice, never seen one from 1966 with that spelling, the "6" is handwritten afterwards though. And it's not the old label, as mine.

/J
1964 - Masaru Kohno No.7
1999 - Lorenzo Frignani
2017 - Tobias Braun

Feel free to ask me anything about Japanese classical guitars.

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Re: Kohno & - Sakurai Guitar Fan Club, Delcamp branch

Post by powermrk » Sun Mar 10, 2019 10:07 am

Jon, the reason I guess was these 66' made Kona guitars were to be sold out to overseas.

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